Great Boxers are AUTOMATICALLY exciting: agree or disagree?

[brocktonblockbust]

If I think of who I feel is a great boxer---- Duran, Hagler, Tony Ayala, Aaron Pryor, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, Evander Holyfield, Tommy Hearns, GGG, ODLH, ---- it seems to me that they are all really really exciting to watch.

Name a great boxer who was consistently boring. Not talking about the off-night, but the USUAL night.

[powerpuncher]

I agree for the most part but there are a few great fighters in history that are boring. Hopkins is the most recent example. I enjoy watching Floyd fight even though others think he is boring, but Hopkins is almost unwatchable.

[brocktonblockbust]

Hop got too old, but in his early days he fought exciting fights.

[Beanflicker]

Guys like Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker could be consistently boring.

[Bill Paxtom]

Guys like Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker could be consistently boring.

Bean-Bore,

Just how many of Willie Pep's bouts did you watch.

Tell us please.

[Beanflicker]

Guys like Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker could be consistently boring.

Bean-Bore,

Just how many of Willie Pep's bouts did you watch.

Tell us please.

I've watched a lot of them, but you know what? I don't know much about Pep's accomplishments as a Somali pirate. Maybe you can make a thread and educate me about how many cruise ships he robbed and sank, or maybe go into more detail about the time he went into space you fan fiction writing cunt.

Enough of you!

[ruthless rocco]

Hop got too old, but in his early days he fought exciting fights.

Hopkins' earlier fights were exciting if you like watching a man tap another man's nuts with his glove.

[brocktonblockbust]

Hop got too old, but in his early days he fought exciting fights.

Hopkins' earlier fights were exciting if you like watching a man tap another man's nuts with his glove.

tapping is boring but he once massaged them

[Ron Swanson]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

[fan johnny]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

[brocktonblockbust]

fighters who bore the public every time are NOT true greats. Look at the thrilling fights Marciano gave us
Look at the thrillers that Holyfield and Tyson and Bowe gave us..........Pryor and Duran and Leonard....

ooooh, Aaron The Hawk Pryor............... oooooooooooooh

[Ron Swanson]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

[fan johnny]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

Maybe you can focus more on what is BS.

[Ron Swanson]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

Maybe you can focus more on what is BS.

I never said a boring boxer = a great boxer. That's what's BS, because I didn't even say anything remotely close to that.

The problem today is people look for so many ways to prove they are right "he had 6 FOTY fights, he was champion in X weight classes etcetera". You have those and people keep adding more and more and more. Exciting? Where does that come into play in a fight? You entertain the crowd to earn more money, you fight to win the fight. Clearly winning the fight is the goal. Exciting is secondary.

this thread makes me think of the saying "I can't define Porn but I know it when I see it". Greatness is like that, it can't be defined because it varies. You can't lay out a series of qualifiers and say "meeting this criteria you are great", that's silly. Arturro Gatti was not a great boxer, but he achieved greatness in boxing. That's how far outside definition the sport is, you can not be great and be great. Or you can be great and not be great.(G-Man, Meldrick Taylor)

People can try all they want but the sport is too subtle for rigid clarifications, that's what makes it the sweet science.

[Bill Paxtom]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

So what you're saying is.

That you fell asleep during the Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti bouts.

Then you know nothing about the action that happened in the Ring.

You're backing yourself into a corner Dutch.

Oh, by the way. Candy del Mar told me to tell you ...... "Stop calling her."