Honestly I think he might fair better vs a Wilder than he would a Jennings all things considered though neither should be anywhere near next just yet. Arreola looked far beyond it and hurt easy in his last out.
Honestly I think he might fair better vs a Wilder than he would a Jennings all things considered though neither should be anywhere near next just yet. Arreola looked far beyond it and hurt easy in his last out.
Heavyweight is a different ball game just ask David price.
I don't doubt that Joshua is the more talented fighter between him and fury but talent will only get you so far when being punched in the face by a heavyweight.
No need to rush. Chisora at best.
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I gotta go with your excellent comment. I do think Joshua has all the potential and want him to become Great. But, it's far to early to be expecting or predicting based on so few fights.
Plenty of decent tests out there and there will be opponents who make the fight dull and go the distance - all Heavyweights need those fights and will get them. The genuine ones.
I was impressed the way he disposed of Johnson and only a hater wouldn't but you've summed up Kingpins actual ambition and that's spot on.
Joshua is a big powerful beast but he needs rounds, aggressive/tough opponents before messing with the better fighters in the division. Any boxing fan who has a knowledge of the sport, knows how the previous best Heavyweights did it and the same applies to Joshua.
I'm just glad we got an exciting journey to watch.
I think it's time to step him up a level. Joshua needs to fight a guy who genuinely believes he can beat him and it needs to be in a fight that means something.
They should be looking to get him a British title fight and then put him in there with Price. I can't see Joshua walking straight through Price and he'll have some respect for his power, so he'll have to put more thought into his work. It's still a very winnable fight for AJ, but he'll get a taste of what it's like to fight a big ambitious guy who carries a threat.
Joshua may well turn out to have a glass jaw , indeed that is possible . Lets judge him on what we see , he is athletic ,powerful , fast and throws combinations really well for a big guy. People may not rate him which is an opinion and is fine , however take Tyson fury as an example , he isn't powerful , proven has a suspect chin , is out of shape , and one of his best wins is against the weak kevin Johnson , who he failed to even get close to stopping.
So lets enjoy Joshua for what he is , a young athlete with lots of potential, maybe not the real deal but exciting to watch and humble with it.
Remember reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol .
You say Tyson is out of shape. Do you mean he doesnt have a homoerotic sculpted body? He does a decent paced 12 rounds fine.
On the Bayloric youtube channel Peter Fury said Tyson visited the gym to spar Johnson in prep for this fight as a favour to Johnson. He was 21 stone apparently and Johnson couldnt last 30 seconds with him so Peter told him to just go home as theres no point being there.
Tyson may not give you a stiffy with his abs and muscular arms but he moves well and fluid and can fight a fast pace over 12. If thats not being in shape what is?
Remember reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol .
Agreed he may be even better carrying less excess but as you just admitted, its undeniable hes one of the fittest heavies around today. Stiverne and Arreola didnt get any criticism for the blubber they carry and they are in fat worse shape than Tyson, even Pulev and Povetkin carry excess.
Im almost certain that if a fighter can get Joshua past 4 rounds he will start to look very ordinary and will visibly tire.
Theres no evidence of this. He went 12 rounds twice both were against opponents who couldnt put any pressure on him. He boxed completely at his own pace. This is completely different then fighting a guy like Wlad who is constantly throwing punches at you. He may well be fit but going the distance with Johnson and Chisora doesnt prove that.
Theres no doubt Joshua could have gone 12 with Johnson if he wanted.
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I think his youth and energy is real. His power is pretty good for a heavyweight, but not a Lennox Lewis power. But it is good.
I think, at this stage, Wilder, Fury, Wlad, Povetkin and Stiverne may be a little too much for him. A healthy Helenius too.
AJ is good, but not at that level yet. Not yet.
Bigger man George, bigger punch!
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On the evidence that Johnson doesnt throw punches. Its not hard throwing 30 jabs and a dozen right hands a round. Thats all Joshua would have to do to go the distance. Pull his punches a bit and anytime Johnsn gets brave put him in his place. If he can do 20 rounds in sparring he can do 12 against a bum.
I really dont know where you come up with some of this stuff Ross. Because hes in shape hes over training? Seriously why do you hate guys who are in shape? Hes a breath of fresh air for the heavyweight division and has passed every test so far. You seemed to think that Johnson would last some rounds but Joshua blew him away. You can try say Johnson was worse than you expected but in fairness thats how he always fights. He is muck like 99% of the heavyweights out there.
Just because Johnson may not throw alot of punches doesnt mean Joshua still may not have tired. Hes falling in love with his power like Haye did and is throwing everything. I thought he looked a little gassed in the second after a burst as he didnt continue to throw like Eubank Jr did in the 12th against Chudinov. 4 or 5 rounds of trying to stop Johnson after never fighting beyond 3 rounds and he would have been tired.
Where do I get this from? From watching fighters tire them selves out believing they are destroyers, like Haye and Price.
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