Yeah, we all know Tyson was a head case.
Still, he never went into the ring unfocused or lackadaisical.
2002 Lennox ? What you been smoking son ? You're talking like the 2002 Lennox was vintage. Not forgetting a year earlier in 01 he was knocked out Rahman. The 2002 Lennox was 37. I think you should have said the 92 Lennox that beat Ruddock.
Either way. 02 Lennox or 92 Lennox, 88 Tyson beats the both of them........and beats Lennox fairly easily. The 02 Tyson was a wreck hooked on coke, not training and even then, Lewis still took 8 rounds to get him out of there.
However I would say that Holyfield may well have beaten a prime Tyson, due to his style. But not Lewis.
End of the day - Tyson - Lewis was like Jones - Calazghe or Hopkins - Calzaghe or Pac-Man - Mayweather......made ten years too late.
I would argue that Lennox was dominant for a longer time than Tyson. Lewis lost to McCall in the mid-90s and Rahman in 2000/01 time frame, and avenged both losses. The truth is that Tyson never fought a complete, large heavyweight who wasn't terrified of him until Buster Douglas. Douglas, Lennox, and Evander all used the jab to control and punish Tyson. Mike was well past his best vs Lennox, but was considered the baddest man on the planet when he faced the other two. Additionally, while he did win those fights vs Tucker, Ruddock, and Smith, he did struggle with their sheer size, and none were ANYWHERE near the complete/elite fighter that 2002 Lennox was.
For your other questions, I think Holmes gives Ali fits prime vs prime, and Louis beats Marciano, but takes some serious punishment in the process.
Tyson did not struggle with big fighters he beat them relatively easy it is just that you could count on one hand the moments of success they had ie Tucker right uppercut 2nd round, Bonecrusher right hand in 12th round ect
That was how good Tyson was.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
You are right to point out pre 1990 that he did not struggle to beat the bigger physical fighters. But he clearly had periods of frustration against Tillis, Green, Ribalta, Smith and Tucker, as all five used their size to neutralize his awesome offence, but at a cost of very limited offence in return.
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."
George Foreman
Lewis was as defensively sound as any of them fighters, but his offence blows them all out the water and only Smith can claim parity in the power stakes.
Tyson never won a fight that was in the balance after six rounds, Lewis always found a way to beat his opponent in the end, from that position.
The only hope for Tyson is that Lewis' alter ego Lummox shows up, and then Mike can win a shootout inside four rounds.
Last edited by Britkid; 11-13-2015 at 04:55 AM.
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."
George Foreman
Argue all you like the facts are Tyson wiped out the top ten and left no one with any perceived chance of beating him. He lost to the biggest ever shock in boxing because he just didnt train properly and let himself down.
How long was Lewis the universally recognised best in the world in one period?
Mike made 6 successfull defences of all 3 belts (losing them in the 7th defence, no other fighter in any other division has held all the titles and defended the, as many times) after unifying 3 separate belts by beating 3 defending champions. Lewis won vacated titles and when he did have them all could only manage a couple of defences of them. He rather chose to drop some so he didnt have to face certain fighters, unlike Mike who proved there was no one in his brief era who could touch him until he big time let himself down in boxing historys biggest shock.
Last edited by ross; 11-13-2015 at 05:00 AM.
Reading through the thread i've decided Lewis would have beat prime Mike. Too strong, too intelligent. However, prime Mike would start favourite over any heavyweight in history.
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
1988 Tyson is the best HW of all time. Its like men vs machine.
You say tomato,
‘n I say …… it correctly.
Last edited by Britkid; 11-14-2015 at 01:29 AM.
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."
George Foreman
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