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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    First thought is Joshua definitely looks to have better footwork early on. Looks quicker but can have some amateur patterns. Lennox was so calm cool and collected. Way too early for Joshua to tell. At almost same stage he was face planting Razor Ruddock on Halloween night. A heavyweight tournament final four of the very best of the era. And stuff like that makes you a believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    First thought is Joshua definitely looks to have better footwork early on. Looks quicker but can have some amateur patterns. Lennox was so calm cool and collected. Way too early for Joshua to tell. At almost same stage he was face planting Razor Ruddock on Halloween night. A heavyweight tournament final four of the very best of the era. And stuff like that makes you a believer.
    Yes, one step at a time. He needs to dispatch tough, but crude Molina quickly IMO and I think he will.Joshua and Errol Spence are the two most talented young prospects I've seen in a while.Joshua is the most promising heavyweight in a decade. Tremendously skilled and has the size and power to boot. "A finely tuned athletic machine" to quote the movie, "The Waterboy".

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    I think they're comparable. Lewis was a more natural athlete for me. From where Joshua is now Lewis just basically went on a who's who of 90's heavyweight boxing. There were a few duff fights, the two blips, but his career was exceptional.

    At the same stage of their career Lewis was Brit/Euro champ but you could argue that he had fought better people.
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    Yes Lennox opposition was much better quality for me - but again as we keep saying a different era for heavyweights with much more talent about.

    We'll be able to judge him better when he gets in with a Wilder, Klitschko , Haye etc... or even someone like Jennings.

    And what will happen when he's in a fight where it's not going his way ? That's when we'll find out a lot (Still angers me the people who say a prime Tyson was better than Ali etc. )

    Can't fault him at all for where he is now though - bit I will moan that he's gone on ppv too early
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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    Lewis fought in the second greatest era of HW boxing (the 90s), so it's hard to say at this stage.

    Joshua hasn't fought anyone, or learned his trade yet & he's already a so-called 'HW champion of the world'!

    One thing I can say is that Joshua looks better than Lewis did early on in his career, as Lennox was reckless & over reliant on his big Right hand which led to his ultimate demise against McCall.

    Saying that, Joshua has not beaten anyone to date as good as Gary Mason & Lewis did that in his 14th fight.
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    Yes he can but a long way to go.

    Lewis improved vastly under Manny and that version would be difficult to beat.
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    Lewis is the best in history, pomp for pomp would have beaten them all

    josh has a long way to go and a lot of questions to answer
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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    Sure, AJ can develop into a great heavyweight but he's going to have to be able to deal with a lot of things in order to achieve that. He needs to keep progressing, he needs to be wary of trap fights, he needs to remain humble, and he needs to know that he can win on the cards or get the KO when he needs it. He'll need to be able to get off the canvas to win, he'll need to be able to avenge losses, and he'll need to be able to put poor performances behind him because not every fight will be a great one from him.



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    Lewis is the best in history, pomp for pomp would have beaten them all

    josh has a long way to go and a lot of questions to answer
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    I think Joshua is very tense when he fights whereas Lewis always looked relaxed and almost under eager at times while maintainting 100% concentration.

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    There's no telling where Joshua will go but he has a long way and a lot of names to go to even be considered alongside Lewis
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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    LEWIS was in a tougher division before the dawn of THE dinosaur that made his exit prior to the title holder with the questionable voice and crystal balls. What Joshua needs is a promoter that will show off his skills getting the best to fight him. As of this moment Joshua is climbing that rope and learning his time is now.

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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I think Joshua is very tense when he fights whereas Lewis always looked relaxed and almost under eager at times while maintainting 100% concentration.
    All of this is very true.....although at times Lennox Lewis WAS indeed under eager. Lennox vs Bruno was a lazy Lennox, Lennox vs Briggs started lazy, Lennox vs Rahman I was lazy. That said, Lennox had it in him to have that switch flipped and when he was "ON" he was amazing.

    I do worry about AJ being a bit too stiff, you use up a lot of energy staying that tense. AJ and the fans don't need to worry about how he'd do vs Lennox, they need to wonder how he'll do against Wlad or Wilder or Parker or whomever else.



    And just to note, that kind of thing can/will/and has happened to every fighter in the history of the sport.

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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    At the very least, Lennox is a top 10 ATG HW, and IMO a top 5.

    So like others have said, Joshua has many years of winning ahead of him if he wants to be considered to be at that level. He seems to have all the physical tools one would need.

    I remember when people were talking about Audley Harrison being the next Lennox Lewis, so hopefully he's not another Audley Harrison.

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    I think AJ will have a longer career and retire in his late 30's so can dominate the division over the long term.
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    Default Re: Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

    He'll never be greater because he doesn't have the same quality of opposition to prove it even if he is. He's several fights into world title level (2010s era world title level) and next up he's fighting a schoolteacher.

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