I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes

[Master]

That would explain why the white South African rugby players were so big.

[DenilsonTheReturn]

A lot of empires left Africa willingly

Willingly ? Like what ?

The Brits won South Africa (which wasn't a nation until it was made a nation) from the Dutch who wanted a route for spices.

Black settlement in South Africa predated European by hundreds of years. Blacks had displaced Khoikhoi as far as the Fish river before Europeans first rounded the Cape. Bantus were in the areas currently occupied by the Zulu people as early as 250 BCE.

Also it's not just about farmland. You ignore the hundreds of thousands of blk ppl who were forcibly removed from urban areas. We are talking about home owners who had their land confiscated and their houses bulldozed because the area was declared whites only.

But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.

But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.

Even if (And this is a massive if) whites SA's hijacked the entire SA military, there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.

As to the rest of the world's reaction:

This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago.

As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them

Africa has a lot of valuable natural resources.

Which is under the control of the white supremacists

but the governments who rule there are inept, brutal, and for whatever reason unable to accomplish the very basics

Coming from a white yank and he's talking about brutality ?

Really ? But what governments are you talking about ?

....but yes I know, I know, Africa was the greatest bestest most wonderful ever place and there were libraries and wonderful things

Isn't this were you say

....where is this stuff now?

White supremacy and gunpowder.

African armies were only defeated when the Europeans got access to gunpowder. Marco Polo brought it back to Europe, and whites immediately started using it to kill people with.

White people have something going for them that black people don't to the same extent.

Whites love to kill.

In Africa, they generally kill for food. In Europe, they kill for sport.



You have a white supremacist who majored in physics and what does he do ?

He think's "well if I cut an an atom in half, which in turn cuts other atoms in half and so on. I can make a nuclear bomb that would kill thousands and thousands"

Who thinks like that ? Fking crazy. The white supremacist (like you) thinks like that.

And even then white Europeans never did a Rambo on Africa (At First)

The came in as friends, with smiles. That's the tactic they still use to Today with the Red Cross, Oxfam and missionaries (A bag of rice for a bag of diamonds)

But there is no question that whites used to gunpowder to take over the world. That meant they could shoot and kill someone from distance. Rather up close and personal, Sword with Sword.

Where's the technology? Where's the economic success?

This assumes that white supremacists would be fine with technology advanced black economic powerhouse in Africa that was not under there thumb.

Look at Rosewood in the early part of the last century



Here was a thriving black community living independent of whites, yet was burned to the ground by white supremacists.

Not 2 mention Bruce’s Beach, Black Wall Street, Bronzeville in Chicago and Black Baltimore during the days of sailing ships all show a pattern of White officials making extraordinary efforts to cut black business development off at the knees.

Black degradation is essential 2 White supremacists.

Thriving Black business districts and strong Black communities would expose the lie at the heart of White Supremacy ideology.

The Tulsa Riot in the early part of the last century.



Same again. Thriving black community. Blew up by white ppl with the aid of the US government.

Growth of ones own country can't happen in isolation. It has to be within an agreed shared global structure which includes everyone. While the ideology and controlling structure of white supremacy remains firmly in place, restrictions will ultimately always apply to black nations.

Its no different to slaves growing their own independent business on the plantation. Sooner or later if its successful the master will want a cut of any of the profits or control of it. Eventually either dominating it completely, eliminating it to avoid unfavorable competition or even having it challenge the plantation slave institution itself.

Where are the brilliant African leaders? All I see are despots....idiot despots at that.

You (or should I say white supremacist kill them all)

One only has to look at the likes of Colonel Gaddifi who was trying to create a central african bank and an african communication network in Africa. Africa is a massive source for mobile phone networks and internet. Africans make billions for the white supremacists. Gaddifi plan went against there wishes just as would have an African bank. So he had to be killed

Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

Mugabe said he was taking the land from the white farmers and then OMG a food shortage happened (HOW THE HELL?!?!?! But you just took the land from the white folks and food fell from the sky like manna for them!!!!) and so he begged to have them come back.

Yeah black people in Zim are gonna starve because growing crops and mechanized agriculture is such a complicated science.





As long as USAID, IMG and World Bank don't try and send in there economic hitmen. Black people will be al right.

And the land is NOT just for Agriculture only but other forms of development including Mining, Infrastructure development, building malls n modern houses etc

Just be thankful I'm not running shit in SA. I'd open up the gates of hell on those robbing white supremacist bastards down there. I'd destroy them economically. I'd turn them into a total underclass. I'd make sure they're begging on the streets. I'd reduce them to nothing and then laugh and mock them for being in that position.

Do exactly to them as they delight in doing to us.

Also have you been to Zimbabwe of late ?




All built and designed and run by black people and those were built AFTER independence.

And this was done despite the deep hyper-inflation that was ravaging their economy because they starved for foreign exchange because Zimbabwe tried to return some of the vast, stolen land-holdings to Zimbabweans, since then the U.S, Britain, IMF, World Bank have waged a relentless economic almost psychotic war against the country.

This idiot in South Africa is going to do the very same, kill the Boer farmers who have farmed the land and provided food for HUNDREDS of years and what do you figure will happen? OOOOH I know, there will be flying cars and it'll be all like Wakanda and everything.

This thing about white SA. Whites around the world are like

"What ? We can't 100% exploit black ppl anymore ? We can't 100% shit on them ?. The world had ended ! That's all I live for ! Life is not worth living if white people are not stomping on black people ..............No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"



South Africa was taken by the white man in blood and must be returned in blood. Whites in SA can still work for black farmers as field hands and laborers for minimum wage.

What they are doing is right.

No white man is African.

The goal for black SA's is to break the white supremacists in SA's spirit. Black SA's should have a heart of stone towards white supremacists in S-A. In fact they should laugh and mock them, and deride them, the same way white supremacists do to black people. They should delight in white suffering. The same way they delight in black suffering. Give them in SA a heavy dose of what they love to dish out.

And that is what they are doing and I applaud them.

[brocktonblockbust]

Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people

[walrus]

Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people

How about Italians

[Beanz]

Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people

Kim - Kanye

[El Kabong]

Willingly like England had a war they had to run and they just left South Africa.

Black settlement in South Africa predated European by hundreds of years.

Yeah, nobody said otherwise. My only point was whites were actually farming the land and doing so for hundreds of years

We are talking about home owners who had their land confiscated and their houses bulldozed because the area was declared whites only.

So you're of the "turn about is fair play" belief? If that's the case then take your ideas of "white privilege" and stuff them because you're saying if blacks were in charge then they'd do everything in their power to oppress whites AND THEN SOME....soooo yeah, take that whole belief system and go fuck yourself

As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them

Ah yes, that is brilliant, what's the skin color...oh, white, well you must be guilty then. Yeah that's brilliant denilson a great way to run a society.

Which is under the control of the white supremacists

Oh I was unaware that the Chinese were white

Coming from a white yank and he's talking about brutality ?

Really ? But what governments are you talking about ?

Yeah, I'm fairly certain it's been a while since our last race related machete attack...much less the DAILY assault on farmers.

I'm talking about: Charles Taylor, Idi Amin, Paul Biya, Robert Mugabe, Sani Abacha, Sekou Toure, Macias Nguema, Siad Barre, Omar Al-Bashir, Hissene Habre, Mobutu Sese Seko.....I mean shit I could list them all fucking day long.

African armies were only defeated when the Europeans got access to gunpowder

Considering Africa was colonized in the 1870's through the 1900's ....yeah the white folk not only had gunpowder by then but they also knew what to do with it strategically. Meanwhile what were Africans doing? Working on the flying car?

In Africa, they generally kill for food. In Europe, they kill for sport

Yeah I hunt for food. I'm fairly certain that a lot of Africans also poach animals for fur, skins, ivory, gallbladders and whatever else the Chinese want. I'm not a trophy hunter, and I'm white.

And even then white Europeans never did a Rambo on Africa (At First)

The came in as friends, with smiles. That's the tactic they still use to Today with the Red Cross, Oxfam and missionaries (A bag of rice for a bag of diamonds)

But there is no question that whites used to gunpowder to take over the world. That meant they could shoot and kill someone from distance. Rather up close and personal, Sword with Sword.

Sure sure it's a great big old "what if"....."what if there had been no gunpowder?" well obviously black people would rule the world! Play this fantasy in your head fine, but it won't change the way things are today. "What if, What if, ummmm, blacks did as well in America as Asians do?"....I'd LOVE to see it, honestly I would because I like many other people am tired of the bitching and the excuses, do for yourself.

Just be thankful I'm not running shit in SA. I'd open up the gates of hell on those robbing white supremacist bastards down there. I'd destroy them economically. I'd turn them into a total underclass. I'd make sure they're begging on the streets. I'd reduce them to nothing and then laugh and mock them for being in that position.

Yeah, that would really help you grow your nation.


Oooooh what's that in Zimbabwe? 2-4 skyscrapers OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH


I guess white people make those folks live there as opposed to those fancy skyscrapers


If you're applauding those in South Africa that's your decision and I'd say it makes any complaining you do about say Trayvon Martin or any other black person who happens to die due to some sort of confrontation in America as kind of hollow....you reap what you sew.

[X]

Denilson..... it seems you are back

"no white man can be African"? How is that different from a white supremacist saying that no black man could ever be British?

Killing and mistreating white peoples because of the sins of their ancestors in South Africa? How is that different from what they did? How is that better? Surely you know the long term outcome of that, because we have already seen it in reverse?

Are you from Africa?

There is no such thing as 'African' .... there is more genetic diversity amongst 'black' races than 'white' ones. A Kikuyu is more racially different to a Ibo than a Frenchman is from a German.

So, how can you categorise 'black' people as if they are all one thing? Following your rather simplified history lesson, the Bantu did migrate and effectively wipe out the San, Khoikhoi and Bushmen ... they were not the same race, despite being 'black' brothers. The Zulu and Matabele massacred everybody in their way very happily indeed, as did the Masai.

You are just a huge ball of bile, directed at anything 'white', whatever that means.

And, yes, I have been to Zim regularly over the past decades. I have family there. The situation is much more nuanced than your facile description.

Where are you actually from and where do you live? What on earth gives you the wherewithal to be a spokesman for 'Africa' and the billions of people around the world of African descent?

Really, I'm genuinely interested.

[DenilsonTheReturn]

Yeah, nobody said otherwise. My only point was whites were actually farming the land and doing so for hundreds of years

That's just



A lot of your comments are

So it's fine for white people in S.Africa to kill, murder, exploit, dominate, laugh and mock black ppl but it's not OK for black ppl in S.Africa to kill, murder, exploit, dominate, laugh and mock white people.

OK. Got it.

You moaning on this site don't mean anything. There is a law that has been passed in SA to make sure the land goes to black people and away from the white supremacists. Now of course are gonna pull some stunt like poison the land or do something but that is to be expected.

Having said that white supremacist still hold major power in S.Africa but this is step in the right direction.

If that's the case then take your ideas of "white privilege" and stuff them

So you're of the "turn about is fair play" belief? because you're saying if blacks were in charge then they'd do everything in their power to oppress whites AND THEN SOME....soooo yeah, take that whole belief system and go fuck yourself

You have to speak the language of the white man and the white man only understands violence. So you have to talk in a way that he understands.

There is no logic with a white supremacist. There is no reason with a white supremacist. There is no middle ground with a white supremacist. That's what white supremacy is. It's meant to be practiced into infinity and beyond and then you laugh and mock the people who you have dominated. That's how it works.

Black people being over 80% of the SA population they could easily wipe out white SA's over night if they wanted.

Ah yes, that is brilliant, what's the skin color...oh, white, well you must be guilty then. Yeah that's brilliant denilson a great way to run a society.

Oh I was unaware that the Chinese were white.

The Chinese are there because they have been allowed to be there by the white supremacists

Yeah, I'm fairly certain it's been a while since our last race related machete attack...much less the DAILY assault on farmers.

See all of sudden it's not so funny when white people are getting killed is it ?

I'm talking about: Charles Taylor, Idi Amin, Paul Biya, Robert Mugabe, Sani Abacha, Sekou Toure, Macias Nguema, Siad Barre, Omar Al-Bashir, Hissene Habre, Mobutu Sese Seko.....I mean shit I could list them all fucking day long.

And your white "brother" Joseph Stalin killed 20 million of your white brothers. That is more than all the people killed in that list combined.
Tell me when I'm lying ?

Considering Africa was colonized in the 1870's through the 1900's ....yeah the white folk not only had gunpowder by then but they also knew what to do with it strategically. Meanwhile what were Africans doing? Working on the flying car?

No. That is one thing I will agree with. White people are good at killing people. That's your nature.

My father always said the meanest people on Earth were White People (white supremacists). Others can be evil for a time but they can’t keep up the murderous rage. White people (white supremacists) will kill and kill until the streets run red with blood. When you look at the history of white people it's almost like they are products of what is known as INVOLUTION. It’s the opposite of EVOLUTION.

Yeah I hunt for food.

The human civilization that you live in is set up precisely so you’re not tested.

Strip away the technology and tools and what can you really do ?

• Can you start a fire without matches ?
• Can you look at the sun and use it guidance map ?
• Can you purify water ?
• Can skin a wild animal and the fur as clothing ?
• Do you know how preserve food without a fridge ?

By taking away humans weapons, you’re removing almost every advantage humans have - it’s like a turtle without a shell.

The human animal is not adapted to fit in the wild. Humans require fire to survive. Humans require electricity and the by-products produced using electricity. Medicine is a requirement.
You want a chicken ? You don't have to kill it. You go down your shop buy one and cook it. Hell you can buy an already cooked one and warm it up in the microwave or if that’s too stressful you can phone up and order one and they’ll deliver it to your doorstep. Most humans buy everything at stores, and many don’t even walk to them, they use cars to get there.

You have lost your animal instincts, as you don’t have to fight for food and without tools, the human race would become extinct within a year.

If you were in rural Kenya.

How long do you think it would be before I came upon your pink and naked body laying in a fen of fern, gasping and shivering, eyes bulging in horror, whilst some poisonous amphibian set atop your chest awaiting your inevitable demise?

fk out my face with your "I hunt for food" nonsense.

Yeah, that would really help you grow your nation.

I think what whites fear most is that many of them know, on some deep buried level, that if they were in our position, they would feel a murderous rage.

I think on a level that is so buried in whites deep-subconscious, you are aware of the violence, it takes to keep a system going that they receive collective privileges from.

As much you wanna talk, you know that Black rage is justified. If the shoe was on the other foot white people would have a murderous rage towards rage to black people.

The truth of the matter is white South Africans (especially Boers) have known that their time is soon to be up in the country. Thousands have already left, and others have been playing for time.

Black people in Africa have survived for countless thousands of years, before whites ever set foot on the continent