I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes

[Gandalf]

I quite agree that a lot of men are no good. So why be involved with them? In the West it is like with Carrillion. We bail out those who act the most improperly. There is no penalty for risky behavior. In fact, prefering bad role models is quite hip. Amir Khan probably does quite well carrying on like he does. Yet women seem to enable him!

[Spicoli]

The woman is the gatekeeper. She is the one who will grow the baby inside her and give birth to the child. She has a responsibility to make sure the man involved is decent, devoted and mature enough to be a stable father. She has a responsibilty to control herself and consider her impact. It is no coincidence that the lowest birth rates are in the most intelligent parts of the world.

Jack rabbit baby making for various reasons isn't exclusive to Africa, 2 upper middle class wankers living in Vegas have just been locked up for starving and shackling a total of 13 of their own children, until one escaped. Pretty sick story early on.

[Gandalf]

No it isn't exclusive to Africa as we see with these stories of families in the West of 10 or more children. Less intelligent people do not consider their impact on the planet or even think about what they are doing. Amir Khan is very wealthy, but he is a perfect example of a thicko that no woman should be getting involved with. Yet here he is about to be a dad. He is clearly going to cause havoc. However, the woman mothering this baby knew full well what she was getting into. Luckily for her he does have money. The poor women who get into that kind of pickle will end up needing the taxpayer to pick things up when it goes wrong as it so obviously will. It sounds extreme but anybody can become a Mum and I think that is a tragedy for all too many babies. Before you can teach you need qualifications. Before you can drive a car you must pass a test. To hand out meds you should pass a course in pharmacology.....yet anyone can be a Mum whenever they want and that is fricking crazy when you think about the social, economic, and moral ramifications. We are seeing the fallout today in Africa and also in the West with the single Mums who seem to be everywhere. No training, kids guzzling sugar, no vegetables, neglect, abuse, surrounded by alcohol, smoke and drugs. It's toxic.

[Master]

The woman is the gatekeeper. She is the one who will grow the baby inside her and give birth to the child. She has a responsibility to make sure the man involved is decent, devoted and mature enough to be a stable father. She has a responsibilty to control herself and consider her impact. It is no coincidence that the lowest birth rates are in the most intelligent parts of the world.

Some women do not have control over their bodies and are "sold" to other men. They are considered baby making machines.

[Gandalf]

The woman is the gatekeeper. She is the one who will grow the baby inside her and give birth to the child. She has a responsibility to make sure the man involved is decent, devoted and mature enough to be a stable father. She has a responsibilty to control herself and consider her impact. It is no coincidence that the lowest birth rates are in the most intelligent parts of the world.

Some women do not have control over their bodies and are "sold" to other men. They are considered baby making machines.

That is unlikely to be the primary reason for Africa's population expansionism problems. If it was then it would suggest Trump was more on the ball than we realised. Anywhere where women are treated as baby making slaves has to be a bit of a shithole. The real issue is that Africans refuse to use contraception. Then because of that they then demand that their children be let into Europe to then have far too many children there and change the demographics forever. Eventually what you have is not Europe, but an extension of Nigeria which is so great that people are constantly trying to escape.

[Master]

The woman is the gatekeeper. She is the one who will grow the baby inside her and give birth to the child. She has a responsibility to make sure the man involved is decent, devoted and mature enough to be a stable father. She has a responsibilty to control herself and consider her impact. It is no coincidence that the lowest birth rates are in the most intelligent parts of the world.

Some women do not have control over their bodies and are "sold" to other men. They are considered baby making machines.

That is unlikely to be the primary reason for Africa's population expansionism problems. If it was then it would suggest Trump was more on the ball than we realised. Anywhere where women are treated as baby making slaves has to be a bit of a shithole. The real issue is that Africans refuse to use contraception. Then because of that they then demand that their children be let into Europe to then have far too many children there and change the demographics forever. Eventually what you have is not Europe, but an extension of Nigeria which is so great that people are constantly trying to escape.

I was making a general point that women do not always have the sole control over their own bodies.

[brocktonblockbust]

True, I control them

[Beanz]

True, I control them

You don't even have control of your own mind or your own hands on the keyboard.... wanker. Fucking shithole of a poster

[Gandalf]

Murray makes the case that people coming from Africa are economic migrants. It basically shows that far from helping having too many children means there is nothing for people at home so they end up leaving for other countries. Then of course once they are settled in further down the line they can then bring their families with them.

[Beanz]

Miles why are you posting Far Right propoganda? Rebel Media? What next Stormfront?

You seem to have a massive issue with both black people and women.

[Master]

Miles why are you posting Far Right propoganda? Rebel Media? What next Stormfront?

You seem to have a massive issue with both black people and women.

Yes you do Miles, why is that?

[Gandalf]

I have an issue with anyone having that many children in an age of excessive resource consumption. It could be Casanova, a Princess, a local stud, a teen Mum, whatever it may be. Black and women too if that is what they are. The population expansionism problems are largely Middle Eastern and African issues today and will be Western issues too if things carry on as they are. It is not sustainable. My arguments are always pretty consistent on this particular issue.

[Gandalf]

Miles why are you posting Far Right propoganda? Rebel Media? What next Stormfront?

You seem to have a massive issue with both black people and women.

Yes you do Miles, why is that?

It isn't about race, it is about behavior. The Middle East and Africa are both seeing excessive population expansionism. It is the same among the poor in the West, though on a lesser scale. I just don't want to see people born into a world where they are screwed from the off. It is better to just not let it happen to begin with.

[Beanz]

Miles why are you posting Far Right propoganda? Rebel Media? What next Stormfront?

You seem to have a massive issue with both black people and women.

Yes you do Miles, why is that?

It isn't about race, it is about behavior. The Middle East and Africa are both seeing excessive population expansionism. It is the same among the poor in the West, though on a lesser scale. I just don't want to see people born into a world where they are screwed from the off. It is better to just not let it happen to begin with.

Stop avoiding the question you just wrote off an entire fucking continent mate and then posted something from a group connected to American white supremacist Richard Spencer.

[Gandalf]

I have said that 6 women per child is extremism and is selfish. No good can come of the kind of population expansionism we are now seeing. In fact European immigration today is a prime example of how Africa has gone wrong in that regard.

I have no idea where Murray is speaking from, all I care about is the content he articulates and it makes sense.

I love women; especially those who think about what are doing and don't behave recklessly. Race is neither here nor there with me. It is all about the behavior and it could be Africa, Middle East or next doors druggie.