Fury v Wilder - Staples Center, Los Angeles 1/12/18

[p4pking]

I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.

[X]

So people are saying that Fury has lost weight ..... and it is the equivalent of an entire prime Ricky Hatton?

That must be a weigh-in Hatton, not a 'between fights' Hatton, otherwise Tyson Fury would make the bantamweight limit right now

[Gandalf]

I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.

I think both are cringeworthy when they start prattling on about higher power, God and being anointed. It suggests Fury hasn't fully recovered from his mania and that Wilder was a seriously indoctrinated young child. However, in saying that, apart from the cult like leanings, they are both people you could have a pint with.

[TitoFan]

Let's set the record straight in case anyone had any doubts. Fury can talk Wilder under a table with both hands tied behind his back. Wilder is a horrible talker, and can be had by a trash-talking 5th-grader. This is why Wilder comes across as unhinged, and could very well be frustrated at how Fury gets the best of him at every face-to-face. Howeverrrrrr....... this should not be confused with saying Fury has gotten into Wilder's head. Wilder is NOT Wlad. Repeat..... NOT Wlad. Wlad let Fury get into his head and became timid. He seemed scared that Fury could take him out. He threw 4 punches a round. Wilder is definitely NOT scared of Fury. Frustrated because Fury has made him look like a fool..... absolutely. Having second thoughts about being able to beat Fury? Nah. The only chance Fury has at playing with Wilder's mind is getting Wilder so pissed off he gets even wilder (no pun intended) than usual. That, I can see.

[Gandalf]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

[nuggetdotcom]

"Expert" Predictions: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury

Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
Wilder by KO

Nick Parkinson
ESPN UK
Wilder KO 10

Tony Bellew
Former cruiserweight titlist
Wilder by decision

Juan Manuel Marquez
ESPN Deportes/Golpe a Golpe
Wilder by decision

Teddy Atlas
ESPN TV
Wilder by KO

Nigel Collins
ESPN.com
Wilder by KO

Mark Kriegel
ESPN TV
Wilder by TKO 10

Steve Kim
ESPN.com
Fury by decision

Eric Raskin
HBO Boxing
Wilder by decision

Joe Cortez
ESPN Deportes
Wilder by KO8

Charles Moynihan
ESPN Bureau Producer
Wilder by TKO 9

Mike Tyson
Former heavyweight champion
I like Anthony Joshua.

Evander Holyfield
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder KO / Fury PTS

Lennox Lewis
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder Early / Fury Late

George Foreman
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder by decision

Riddick Bowe
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder by KO with ease.

Gerry Cooney
Former heavyweight title contender
Wilder by KO inside 4.

Luis "King Kong" Ortiz
Heavyweight title contender
Wilder by KO

Chris Arreola
Former heavyweight title contender
Wilder to win

Salvador Rodriguez
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by decision

Claudia Trejos
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by KO early

Bernardo Pilatti
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by KO early

Delvin Rodriguez
ESPN Deportes
Wilder by KO

Jorge Eduardo Sanchez
ESPN Deportes
Fury by decision

Pablo Viruega
ESPN Deportes/Noche de Combates
Wilder by TKO

Score: Wilder - 22 / Fury - 2 / Joshua - 1.

Settles it for me then, I'm backing Fury

[TitoFan]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.

[Gandalf]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.

Fury is better at talking smack and I would agree with that. I also think when Wilder does it it seems kind of forced and not really his thing. He has to try and hype a fight and cannot do a Mike Tyson impression well. I don't think he comes across as unhinged at all though, whence me finding it all rather forced. Fury on the other hand likely is a bit unhinged and that's no criticism. I don't really regard it as a verbal competition and find these conferences more pantomime than anything else.

If you have done the work in the gym and are confident in your abilities then you know in yourself that is likely more than enough, especially if you are undefeated, stay in shape, and have recently proven you can fight when up against it. Fury seems the one more desperate to get under Wilder's skin whilst Wilder has simply let a lot of things slide. For instance, Fury is dressing sharper but it is just hot air really isn't it to make a song and a dance about it? Doesn't matter really and if Fury was so enamored with his clothes why the desperate need to take them all off? Couldn't that wait for the weigh in? Isn't that unhinged? Flouncing about topless at the very end of a press conference?

I hope he is going to shave some of that beard off too as you wouldn't want that rubbing in the eyes. He should have an X marked on it too to add to the pantomime. Fury is all pantomime. The most likely person to be knocked out is Fury. By his own uppercut. Wilder is a bit soft and just doesn't throw out lines that way, but if talking makes you the best then why was Malignaggi never P4P number 1? Words can only take you so far in boxing. In the real world of course it is a different story.

[ruthless rocco]

Miles doesn't think Wilder comes across as unhinged.

[Gandalf]

Well observed Rocco. When Wilder goes down the Broner/Mayweather/Tyson/Taylor route I will concede that he is unhinged. The odd rant about eating an opponent is rather mild all things considered.

[Dark Lord Al]

Fury - here we have a 6'9 lumbering limbo dancing galoot with average power , he has a good engine but isn't pretty to watch.

Wilder - Fine condition , he lacks the boxing basics , however this drunken Giraffe of a fighter carries Dynamite in either hand.

This is likely to be an awful spectacle for the paying public.

It is a pickem fight for the simple reason that both have padded records bar a few name fighters.

If I had to make a pick , I will go for Wilder via 5 round KO.

By that time of the fight the referee will likely stop the fight , to save the audience from further punishment.

[ruthless rocco]

Miles will eventually concede to Wilder being unhinged.

[Gandalf]

Miles will eventually concede to Wilder being unhinged.

I never concede. I follow them all the way to the asylum pleading their sanity.

[Fenster]

Billy Joe Saunders has bet £70,000 on Fury to win @ 11/8
Pays him back around £166,000

Nearly as big as my bet.

[Fenster]

This is why Wilder mentally cracked