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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?

    Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
    I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.

    I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.

    There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?

    Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
    I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.

    I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.

    There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
    You over heard Robinson telling his supporters to attack the public , or the press ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?

    Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
    I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.

    I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.

    There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
    You over heard Robinson telling his supporters to attack the public , or the press ?
    There is a video i posted of him earlier in the thread telling one of his supporters its fine to punch them in the head as long as no cameras are on. You can see him laying into the Asian lad as his goons hold him in another vid on this thread , he is not quite the statesman his followers and fans in America mistake him for.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    There is a video i posted of him earlier in the thread telling one of his supporters its fine to punch them in the head as long as no cameras are on. You can see him laying into the Asian lad as his goons hold him in another vid on this thread , he is not quite the statesman his followers and fans in America mistake him for.

    I don't think he's a statesman at all, if he was he'd be busy selling out the British people like the refined elite Eton grads do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    There is a video i posted of him earlier in the thread telling one of his supporters its fine to punch them in the head as long as no cameras are on. You can see him laying into the Asian lad as his goons hold him in another vid on this thread , he is not quite the statesman his followers and fans in America mistake him for.

    I don't think he's a statesman at all, if he was he'd be busy selling out the British people like the refined elite Eton grads do.
    Boris will be next. The only reason he is favourite is because he has kept his mouth shut wait until he starts talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    There is a video i posted of him earlier in the thread telling one of his supporters its fine to punch them in the head as long as no cameras are on. You can see him laying into the Asian lad as his goons hold him in another vid on this thread , he is not quite the statesman his followers and fans in America mistake him for.

    I don't think he's a statesman at all, if he was he'd be busy selling out the British people like the refined elite Eton grads do.
    Again you are so misinformed it almost makes it impossible to know where to start. I don't blame you, I think the American media, Mainstream or alternative has a lot to answer for.

    The Eton graduates within the Tory party are the ones who engineered and designed the whole Brexit plan. There has always been a Eurosceptic element in the conservative party and it had got to the point where it was going to pull the party apart. Boris and Rees Mogg who both went to Eton were rivals of Cameron who also went there. Cameron called the referendum to try and settle that feud. Eton is a place where the real elites send for training their kids to still run what was the British Empire when they leave.

    Eton graduates are found not just in the tory party but the city, the new Empire. The bankers and investors there are often from Eton and even those not from there, traders like Farage and investors like Stuart Wheeler and Duncan Carswell all public school boys are without a shadow of a doubt the puppet masters running the show. It was here they met Aaron Banks another key figure behind UKIP.

    I am not going to fill in all the dots, look it up yourself. What you will find though is that not only Boris but Leadson and other front runners for PM went there and many BBC journalists. That is why Farrage and Boris etc are given an easy ride by the BBC who are not the lefty defenders you think they are.

    It is Brexit itself that is selling out the Brits on a false promise. Those who planned it like those behind previous financial crashes have invested millions on the UK economy sinking. They will profit from the blood of the poor. It is literally designed to preserve the elite, not get rid of them. Preserve their ability to avoid paying tax and fill their bank accounts with the profits of Britain's ruin.
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    .... I'm saying he's not your typical politician
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?

    Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
    I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.

    I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.

    There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
    I never said everyone with Robinson was innocent, clearly many of his supporters reveled in it and enjoyed themselves.

    However, the only person "making things up" to suit a narrative is you. No, sorry, maybe you truly believe the muslim mob had every right to violently attack that community? Or you truly believe all the people in that area were prepared and ready for the "planned" attack.

    The point is the trouble was started by a mob TRAVELLING to an area they didn't live, facilitated by the police. It wasn't a barren industrial estate it was peoples homes. But it doesn't matter as being poor white people they are all evil, nasty racist Robinson supporters.

    As you've just proved through your "experience" in hooliganism - Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Exactly! The police prevent mass punchups not encourage them. That is exactly the same as my own experience of football matches.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?

    Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
    I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.

    I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.

    There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
    I never said everyone with Robinson was innocent, clearly many of his supporters reveled in it and enjoyed themselves.

    However, the only person "making things up" to suit a narrative is you. No, sorry, maybe you truly believe the muslim mob had every right to violently attack that community? Or you truly believe all the people in that area were prepared and ready for the "planned" attack.

    The point is the trouble was started by a mob TRAVELLING to an area they didn't live, facilitated by the police. It wasn't a barren industrial estate it was peoples homes. But it doesn't matter as being poor white people they are all evil, nasty racist Robinson supporters.

    As you've just proved through your "experience" in hooliganism - Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Exactly! The police prevent mass punchups not encourage them. That is exactly the same as my own experience of football matches.
    Where did i say it was OK for anyone to attack anyone? Where did I say all Robinson supporters where evil nasty and racist let alone all the white people on the estate? Why would I say something like that?

    Where is this footage of the Police escorting the Asian mob to Tommies love in ?

    Not just that but apparently you are now suggesting that the Police are also responsible for encouraging and facilitating the violence.

    Please do not assume that I use the same broad brush bullshit Robinsons defenders have for several years now with their campaign of lies here on the forum. You have now started inventing a position for me to inhabit in order to destroy an argument i have never made. To be quite frank the anti-white thing is not a good look for anyone using it to avoid discussing the uncomfortable truth.

    I am not the one starting hundreds of threads claiming Asians, black people, non-christians, gays, the disabled or any other minority group are being victimized so the fact that anyone gets the idea I am anti-white or anti-working class etc is purely down down to a concerted effort by others who seem to have little to no experience of working class white culture, who spend their time being condescending pricks to the very group they claim to be defending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    .... I'm saying he's not your typical politician
    No he is a foot soldier for the same deep state Zionists that seek to keep the middle east at war and personally profit from the demise of Great Britain in a vain attempt to preserve and resurrect the Empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    .... I'm saying he's not your typical politician
    No he is a foot soldier for the same deep state Zionists that seek to keep the middle east at war and personally profit from the demise of Great Britain in a vain attempt to preserve and resurrect the Empire.
    So he's simultaneously trying to preserve and resurrect the Empire AND personally profiting from it's demise?

    That's special.


    Think what you want of him. The fact is he wouldn't have any following at all if A) Concern for the direction of the nation wasn't an issue and B ) people didn't feel like they were being sold out and the ENEMY (see Al Qaeda, ISIS, & grooming gangs all of whom are special and different) was being handed the keys to the country.

    You don't help your side of the argument by denying the shady shit the government has done/is doing. There are people who like and follow Tommy not because of his past but because of their own personal experiences and they aren't all hate filled racists or fascists or ultra-nationalists. But that's my view of things so take it or leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    .... I'm saying he's not your typical politician
    No he is a foot soldier for the same deep state Zionists that seek to keep the middle east at war and personally profit from the demise of Great Britain in a vain attempt to preserve and resurrect the Empire.
    So he's simultaneously trying to preserve and resurrect the Empire AND personally profiting from it's demise?

    That's special.


    Think what you want of him. The fact is he wouldn't have any following at all if A) Concern for the direction of the nation wasn't an issue and B ) people didn't feel like they were being sold out and the ENEMY (see Al Qaeda, ISIS, & grooming gangs all of whom are special and different) was being handed the keys to the country.

    You don't help your side of the argument by denying the shady shit the government has done/is doing. There are people who like and follow Tommy not because of his past but because of their own personal experiences and they aren't all hate filled racists or fascists or ultra-nationalists. But that's my view of things so take it or leave it.
    I have not asked either you or anyone else to repeatedly answer long sets of numbered questions like you are on trial. I have been way more accommodating than either of you in indulging you both and have pointed you towards facts and evidence you continually choose to ignore. You are both clinging to a set script and repeating with astonishing naivety the same old rhetoric in the face of overwhelming evidence that you obviously have an agenda that cares little for facts, democracy or the views and rights of British people.

    A) Concern for the direction of the nation is not something that an American and an expat in South Korea are in a position to dictate to British people in an attempt to synergise your own very specialist concerns with projections onto a country whose problems are not yours. There is just as much, if not more concern in the country being pointed toward an American model of huge disparity between the working man and the super rich personified in a President as privileged and stupid as those who seek to lead Britain into the shadow of your corporate republic. A republic headed by a corrupt, bent , narcissist who like May and the Tories is more interested and in love with the trappings of power and the sound of his own voice than the privilege of leading a country and making ordinary people's lives better. You don't want to hear it because you quite clearly are more interested in political point scoring and buying into the same neo liberal whitewash that allows people at the top to stay at the top, all for the worship of the individual and money. Celebrity culture which Tommy and Carl and PJW , Farrage, Boris and Trump etc are all figureheads of.

    B) If you seek out evil you will find it everywhere. You and I are both from countries that not only helped create and fund Isis (The USA along with the UK) by supporting and continuing to support Wahhabism and prop up and arm the Saudis, but have also abandoned the brave men and mostly women who defeated ISIS. Of course you would like to continue a narrative that buries this inconvenient fact and pretends that those supporting these wars and their part in maintaining and sustaining the profit margins of the UK and USA with the blood of innocents, are the real victims. But we both know that is not true.

    Mossad supporting Tommy is not a victim. Tommy supported by The Middle East Forum etc is not a victim. When the victims he uses, actual victims of rape , violence and abuse want nothing to do with him it might be time to stop pretending he is the victim.

    And don't you ever,even for one second ever pretend that I have pretended that politicians in and out of Government are incapable of 'shady shit' . Not when every day you maintain the charade of Trump being a shining example of transparency, honesty and morals. Why would I ever defend a Tory government or the New Labour one that preceded it? That is you and Gandalf and all you and you investment and Hyper Capitalists Neo Liberal crew. It has fuck all to do with me. And stop pretending that you would ever allow anyone to have another opinion of Robinson when you are part of a movement here that has repeatedly lied about him for years now i order to create a fantasy.

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    I cannot help but accuse you of having something wrong with you, Beanz. In that extremely long winded post likely to be read by perhaps 8 different people in the world which you clearly put some time into you cannot help but lie about and reference me in a post that has nothing to do with me. Do I mention Master in every single post I make to you? Do you not realize how dotty that is?

    Just because you are a Marxist, open borders, taker of resources rather than provider of them, does not make everybody else a neo liberal. Tommy Robinson is more of an Englishman than you for a start because he puts his people above some bloody super state. You might call yourself a European as a Pole might have proudly called himself a Soviet (weirdly of course). However, the rest of us no matter where we are are English. You of course are proud of all these non English roots and appear to be from all over the place.

    If you want to be European then kindly fuck off to Romania or wherever and enjoy the goodlife. Nobody is stopping you. You like community, then leave your sanctuary retreat and talk to the people, you all speak European of course. Enjoy.
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    Yes, I accuse you of defending Tories all the time. You do realize that it is the ever reasonable and lucid you who constantly accuses me of being a Tory and more than once compared me to Rees Mogg whose father we should all read the 'reviews' of a book? But as you were. I have no recollection of ever comparing you to or calling you a Tory. If you are going to reference someone it should at least have some connection with reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I cannot help but accuse you of having something wrong with you, Beanz. In that extremely long winded post likely to be read by perhaps 8 different people in the world which you clearly put some time into you cannot help but lie about and reference me in a post that has nothing to do with me. Do I mention Master in every single post I make to you? Do you not realize how dotty that is?

    Just because you are a Marxist, open borders, taker of resources rather than provider of them, does not make everybody else a neo liberal. Tommy Robinson is more of an Englishman than you for a start because he puts his people above some bloody super state. You might call yourself a European as a Pole might have proudly called himself a Soviet (weirdly of course). However, the rest of us no matter where we are are English. You of course are proud of all these non English roots and appear to be from all over the place.

    If you want to be European then kindly fuck off to Romania or wherever and enjoy the goodlife. Nobody is stopping you. You like community, then leave your sanctuary retreat and talk to the people, you all speak European of course. Enjoy.
    Well at least you are admitting to being the racist bigot you have always been. I am English. I was born here, as were both my parents and I have never suggested being anything else. Not only that I live and work here whereas you have done nothing but diss Britain since the first day I joined the forum. It is not for you and the rest of the traitorous expats who seek to profit from the demise of Britain to define what being British or English means. Yaxley-Lennon puts himself above everyone and does not give a shit about Britain or the English.

    Taker of resources? Provider of them?

    You are ashamed to put the flag on your profile let alone fly it in real life and could not be bothered to get up and watch England play on the TV ffs. You look down your nose at most Brits here. Those with families you sniff at, and you spend the rest of the time slagging off single mothers, disabled athletes, teachers, the Police, Civil servants, etc.

    And now you are demanding I leave Britain?

    All because you do not even believe in the idea of community or the very people you claim to be defending all the way over there in one of the most repressive, conservative, shallow vacuous, homogenized, misogynistic, racist countries on earth A country with it's head in the sand when it is not at the local cosmetic surgeon getting it's nose redone

    We don't all run away mate. Some of us dig deep and support our families here in good ole Blighty despite all it's faults. Grow the fuck up and take some responsibility for your own life.
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