My P4P listing...

**ykdadamaja** · 07-31-2023 11:19 PM

1. Bud Crawford
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Artur Beterbiev
4. Tyson Fury
5. OLEKSANDR USYK
6. DMITRY BIVOL
7. Tank Davis
8. Canelo Alvarez
9. DEVIN HANEY
10. Jermell Charlo

You cannot argue with this list. This is "thee" list.

**palmerq** · 08-01-2023 05:39 AM

Crawford, Inoue and usyk as the top three in whatever order (although I'd lean towards Crawford or usyk as number 1 slightly more than the monster), these guys seem pretty far ahead of everyone else, they are not your average bear. 4th maybe bivol when he's on form and as for the rest who cares.

**Master** · 08-01-2023 08:46 AM

Crawford first after the emphatic performance against Spence where he even started negotiations against his next opponent Charlo during the actual fight.

Then the Monster from Japan.

**Mark TKO** · 08-01-2023 11:13 AM

can't argue with top two there - can't see any of the others doing anything to topple them either for the forseeable.

**Primo Carnera** · 08-01-2023 08:40 PM

This is my stab at it.
1. Terence Crawford
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Dmitry Bivol
5. Canelo Alvarez
6. Artur Beterbiev
7. Devin Haney
8. Tank Davis
9. Jermell Charlo
10. Shakur Stevenson

**Spicoli** · 08-02-2023 02:26 AM

I don’t dabble too much in p4p stuff but would go first two clearly. Usyk 3rd and Bivol brings up 4. It can always get really subjective and arbitrary depending on what we look for. Is interesting Bivol is the only one there to have defeated another p4p. Usyk was up for it, Greedy belly not so much at all.

**iwng100** · 08-02-2023 02:58 AM

1. Naoya Inoue
2. Terence Crawford
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Gervonta Davis
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Shakur Stevenson
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Vasiliy Lomachenko
10. Canelo Alvarez

The first two, The Monster and Bud, were very impressive, both of them fought and stopped undefeated champs winning every minute of the fight. I put Inoue on the top only because he went up one weight class but I can't argue with Bud being in pole position. I put Canelo on the list out of generosity, I'm not convins he's top ten best fighter of the moment. I had Loma at least 2 points ahead of Haney so he got a place at the table ...

**TitoFan** · 08-02-2023 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by iwng100

1. Naoya Inoue
2. Terence Crawford
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Gervonta Davis
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Shakur Stevenson
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Vasiliy Lomachenko
10. Canelo Alvarez

The first two, The Monster and Bud, were very impressive, both of them fought and stopped undefeated champs winning every minute of the fight. I put Inoue on the top only because he went up one weight class but I can't argue with Bud being in pole position. I put Canelo on the list out of generosity, I'm not convins he's top ten best fighter of the moment. I had Loma at least 2 points ahead of Haney so he got a place at the table ...

I'd agree with this list with a couple of exceptions. I'd switch Crawford and Inoue, which admittedly is tough for me to do, because I've been on Inoue's bandwagon for quite a while now... and he did nothing to disappoint against Fulton. But Crawford's destruction of Spence just bumped him up to a close #1 for me.

The rest of the list is quite good, except I personally would have Haney at #10 and bump the red-head off the list altogether.

**iwng100** · 08-02-2023 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by iwng100

1. Naoya Inoue
2. Terence Crawford
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Gervonta Davis
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Shakur Stevenson
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Vasiliy Lomachenko
10. Canelo Alvarez

The first two, The Monster and Bud, were very impressive, both of them fought and stopped undefeated champs winning every minute of the fight. I put Inoue on the top only because he went up one weight class but I can't argue with Bud being in pole position. I put Canelo on the list out of generosity, I'm not convins he's top ten best fighter of the moment. I had Loma at least 2 points ahead of Haney so he got a place at the table ...

I'd agree with this list with a couple of exceptions. I'd switch Crawford and Inoue, which admittedly is tough for me to do, because I've been on Inoue's bandwagon for quite a while now... and he did nothing to disappoint against Fulton. But Crawford's destruction of Spence just bumped him up to a close #1 for me.

The rest of the list is quite good, except I personally would have Haney at #10 and bump the red-head off the list altogether.

Both Inoue and Bud won their fights in a very impressive manner, the Monster finished Fulton even sooner but I can see why everyone else put Terence #1, undisputed in 2 weight classes, Spence being better than Fulton. Like I said, I have considered that The Monster going up made the task even more difficult; also Spence after accident may not be the same fighter he was, his next fight will tell us more. Although, I have no problem with Bud being in the top, I think they are about the same level and the gap between them and Usik is bigger than the gap between Usik and the others, just my opinion.
I'm more than fine with Ginger out of the top 10 but I'm not sure Haney deserves the spot, he lost to a 35 years old, naturally featherweight boxer.
Finally, I think Spicoli is right, Bivol beating a P4P fighter deserves the 4th place.