I see here (and other places) where guys/ladies tend to talk boxing, judge careers etc but seem to lose concept on exactly how things are ment to be spoken about, words seem to be arranged in their favor to eith hype their fighter, nexcuse a loss or just plain old make it so they do not have to admit being wrong on a subject,,,,The one thing though about Saddo's unlike other forums is other places that I will not mention "Cough Boxing Cough Talk" is at least we do not pull out a F*** Y** as our ace in the hole...commom other places...but like I was saying though there are certain things that are overlooiked when debating or maybe just ignored...That I just do not understand
A fighters career-
Fighters all have their prime in different stages, some are late bloomers others only have a prime that last about 5 fights, all depends on the fighter. People tend to judge the wrong way when doing a look back at a fighters past.....You judge how great a fighter was by his prime and prime alone, sure they have fights past their prime but the prime is how you base things on- anything past the prime is an add on...some guys fight past their best due to money reasons, others due to the fact they just can not hang them up....EG- Ali, when people speak of Ali it is not the Berbick fight where he is judged on how good he was, Same for Ray Leonard people do not judge him by the loss to Camacho....in fact for those guys those fights are hardly mentioned..Why? because that was not Ray Leonard or Ali..it was mere shells of their former selves and it would be unfair to include those bouts. Is it on their official resume? Yes but not them in their prime.....Hell Joe Nameth could go out and throw one more TD pass but would you include the back breaking tackle that followed as part of his career?.............It goes both ways...EG- Alfonso Gomez...If he met PBF tommorow and somehow won..but lost every other fight after...would that make him an ATG?...No it means he had one hell of a night and that is that......Refer to fighters in their prime don't give them false glory for one accomplishment or losses that came because the man did not know or could not go when the time was right
BUM--Pride already did a thread about this but still see it everywhere...and it is NEVER USED IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT!!!!!.....I will not go into the fact that any man who gives it his 100% in there ring is not a BUM....He may not be any good but that does not make him a BUM...and FYI to some of you out there that are fond of the word...In boxing it was not used for a guy who sucked but just the opposite...It was for a fighter with all the ability that never used it like they should have....EG- HW Jeremy Bates is not a BUM...Glass Jawed, unskilled, clumsey yes but he gets in there and tries...Zab Judah, Fast, good power, slkick movement, but mentally just throws it away everytime there is a moment of despair in the ring..that is a bum...because he did not need to do the things he did or stop trying...Another in that catagory would be Mike Tyson, Threw away what could have been the greatest not only HW but top 5 ATG careers ever
Losing-- If your fighter loses or looks bad in a bout just admit it!!!! Reguardless of the reason, There seems to be more excuses from the fans then the camp's themselves, I see post start flying up everywhere after a guy loses for 1000 reasons I don't know which is more out of control the thread title or the post itself....."Marquez family being held Hostage"
Just read this on weknownothingaboutboxing.com...Marquez family is being held hostage by French vollyball players thats why he did not beat Vazquez and took the 12th round off......I know a bit over the top but everyone knows what I am saying....I love even more when the poster says..."I just heard this"...OK from where? your imagination?.....
Bandwagons!!- This is the all time most annoying thing anywhere!!! A fighter has a couple good wins in a row and all of a sudden they are the greatest thing since Wonder starting slicing bread....Prime example David Haye.. Strong guy decent skills good win against Enzo and Good win Over Mormeck but WTF!!!! After the Enzo bout people were ahiling him the greatest thing EVER!!!! Lets see some threads were..."Is Haye the Saviour of HW boxing"...I seen someone post he is the greatest CW of all time...I even seen a post on another site where a guy swore Haye's power is the most frightening since a prime Tyson!!!!....Another called him the hardest Hitter P4P in boxing history!!!..Another said Haye would have beaten Lewis, Holmes..and another stated Haye would do what Holyfield could not...Be the only CW to jump up and take over the division by taking out all comers....My favvorite on this site was a guy who said Haye hit harder then Wlad or Peter!!!....Give me a break would you...Who the hell has Haye beat? Mormeck and Enzo?...Not ATG's fellow's....Sparking out some CWTS and a few unknown heavies is a whole different ballgame then stepping up and wiping out the upper tier of the big boys no matter how thin the division is....After this weekend it wiull be a new fighter up there and the same guys will totally forget Haye and sing their paraises..."Pacquiao should take over the world who wants to help" or "JMM wins anyone who does not speak spanish and get his name tatooed on him should be shot"......I know that is all a bit over the top but seriously it gets out of control....It would not be so bad if the same people did not suddenly think a new fighter every week is the greatest.....stick with a guy it is called being a fan!!!...Reminds me of the kid next door growing up...His favorite football team was whoever won the Superbowl that year....He could not even spell Pittburgh or tell you what state Dallas was in if you offerd him a million bucks
OK my rant is over now.....Sorry to all those who endured it and to those who do not want to admit it happens all the time Kiss My Ass because you are the ones who are the biggest felons of it.....
It is not for me to say how anyone post and I love everyone you Bitche's (though some less then others)..and I like debating with everyone...Just had to get it out of my system![]()
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