Thread: What A Crock Of Crap!!!!!

Boxing News : Ring Awards Pacquiao, But Says Marquez Won

Can you believe this crap? It was close fight and the judges saw it the way they saw it. We all have to live with that now. It's not like the last Casamayor fight where it was total washout. It was an incredibly competitive fight.

Conflict of interest in it's purest form.

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

Not surprising really.

The judges decision is final

Don't really see what the uproar is here, considering the majority of people saw Manny lose that fight.

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

You realizes they gave the belt to Pac right?
I could see if they would have NOT given the belt to Pac then I can see the issue or why you would feel that this is hurting the sport.

The result has been given and that can't be changed, Pac is the Ring Champ. that's all that matters.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

You realizes they gave the belt to Pac right?
I could see if they would have NOT given the belt to Pac then I can see the issue or why you would feel that this is hurting the sport.

The result has been given and that can't be changed, Pac is the Ring Champ. that's all that matters.

No, actually it's not all that matters.

They handed him the belt but took away the credit. So how is that a good thing? It's a tough fight to score and people have different views on the scoring. The only scores that matter are the judges.

Again, it's not like Marquez completely dominated or Pac was not in the fight like Casamayor was thoroughly dominated in his last fight. Which is the reason for VD's appearance on the thread to disagree.

It was a great close fight and the judges picked Pac so golden boy.......errr, ring mag has to suck it up and not try to downplay Pacs accomplishment.

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

You realizes they gave the belt to Pac right?
I could see if they would have NOT given the belt to Pac then I can see the issue or why you would feel that this is hurting the sport.

The result has been given and that can't be changed, Pac is the Ring Champ. that's all that matters.

No, actually it's not all that matters.

They handed him the belt but took away the credit. So how is that a good thing? It's a tough fight to score and people have different views on the scoring. The only scores that matter are the judges.

Again, it's not like Marquez completely dominated or Pac was not in the fight like Casamayor was thoroughly dominated in his last fight. Which is the reason for VD's appearance on the thread to disagree.

It was a great close fight and the judges picked Pac so golden boy.......errr, ring mag has to suck it up and not try to downplay Pacs accomplishment.

SO you'd prefer the journos to LIE and pretend they scored the fight for Pac?

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

You realizes they gave the belt to Pac right?
I could see if they would have NOT given the belt to Pac then I can see the issue or why you would feel that this is hurting the sport.

The result has been given and that can't be changed, Pac is the Ring Champ. that's all that matters.

No, actually it's not all that matters.

They handed him the belt but took away the credit. So how is that a good thing? It's a tough fight to score and people have different views on the scoring. The only scores that matter are the judges.

Again, it's not like Marquez completely dominated or Pac was not in the fight like Casamayor was thoroughly dominated in his last fight. Which is the reason for VD's appearance on the thread to disagree.

It was a great close fight and the judges picked Pac so golden boy.......errr, ring mag has to suck it up and not try to downplay Pacs accomplishment.

SO you'd prefer the journos to LIE and pretend they scored the fight for Pac?

They don't have to lie about anything. Just hand over the belt with their mouths closed.

Ring didn't state anything slanderous or shocking. Alot of people had JMM winning and alot had Paaquiao winning. It was a close fight. I personally scored 113-115 Pacman. 6 rounds to 5 with one even and a 10-8 for the KD. I couldnt logically argue against a draw or a win for Marquez. The fight was just that good and close.
If we weren't allowed to mildly question a close SD win,then we would have squat to talk about on these boards.

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

No, actually it's not all that matters.

They handed him the belt but took away the credit. So how is that a good thing? It's a tough fight to score and people have different views on the scoring. The only scores that matter are the judges.

Again, it's not like Marquez completely dominated or Pac was not in the fight like Casamayor was thoroughly dominated in his last fight. Which is the reason for VD's appearance on the thread to disagree.

It was a great close fight and the judges picked Pac so golden boy.......errr, ring mag has to suck it up and not try to downplay Pacs accomplishment.

SO you'd prefer the journos to LIE and pretend they scored the fight for Pac?

They don't have to lie about anything. Just hand over the belt with their mouths closed.

This actually strikes at a deeper question that I have raised before. The Ring ISNT an official governing body and they DON'T have any official belt sanctioning abilities.

They are a magazine. As a magazine it is entirely right and proper that they comment on all the big fights, that is what a magazine's role is.

Can you imagine Shoot, the popular uk soccer mag not providing assessment of matches for fear of being labelled biased, it's just absurd, that is the very job of a magazine!

So there is nothing wrong in The Ring making judgements on who they thought won the fight, that is their role.......as a magazine.

However, if you take issue, as I do to an extent, of a magazine holding more sway in the minds of the hardcore fans than the sanctioning bodies then that is another argument entirely.

I have raised this many times. The idea that a magazine's rankings can take precedent over the actual official rankings is something entirely peculiar to boxing.

No other sport operates in this way.I believe that in allowing the Ring to operate in a such a way devalues the actual belts that are in place.

When Greece stunned the whole of Europe by winning the European cup (soccer) a few years back people were amazed, but noone questioned the result. That was it, they won they were champions.

In boxing however it's another thing entirely. As I highlighted the other day Ricardo Torres despite being a legitimate belt holder is ranked only 9th (actually 10th as the champ is 0) in the junior welterweight division by the Ring Magazine.

This creates a strange double standard. Although he is a genuine world title belt holder, the fans and writers alike don't recognise that and rate him lower than people such as D Hop who has never even fought for a world title

Those are the cases I think the Ring serves to undermine boxing because they are unintentionally taking away from the credibility of the sanctioning bodies.

I don't see what the problem is here.

The Ring recognizes and abides by judging decisions, but they don't follow sanctioning bodies. That's their stance and always has been.

They scored the fight for Marquez, but the judging decision was for Pac and therefore they acknowledge the official judges and give their belt to Pac.

If the roles had been reversed, and Marquez had won a close decision, but the Ring thought Pac won... then they would have let Marquez keep the belt, but they would have published that they thought Pac won.

What's the problem here?

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Boxing News : Ring Awards Pacquiao, But Says Marquez Won

Can you believe this crap? It was close fight and the judges saw it the way they saw it. We all have to live with that now. It's not like the last Casamayor fight where it was total washout. It was an incredibly competitive fight.

Conflict of interest in it's purest form.

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

Is true BX703NY, the most important thing in sport is CREDIBILITY , but do you think Pacquiao going take that offer of $6 Millions........

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Boxing News : Ring Awards Pacquiao, But Says Marquez Won

Can you believe this crap? It was close fight and the judges saw it the way they saw it. We all have to live with that now. It's not like the last Casamayor fight where it was total washout. It was an incredibly competitive fight.

Conflict of interest in it's purest form.

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

Yeah is they want the Ring Championship Status to have any merit at all, they need to respect the judges that made the decision. If they try to influence us with their own goals, they will fail.

This thread is a A Crock Of Crap

The article only notes that a couple of journalist who work for The Ring scored the fight for JMM. (Big Deal)

Your thread implies that The Ring is taking an official position or something.


You will see 100% more integrity in The Ring then in all of the alphabet Gangs put together.

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Boxing News : Ring Awards Pacquiao, But Says Marquez Won

Can you believe this crap? It was close fight and the judges saw it the way they saw it. We all have to live with that now. It's not like the last Casamayor fight where it was total washout. It was an incredibly competitive fight.

Conflict of interest in it's purest form.

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

They gave Pacquiao the belt. What the fuck are you complaining about?

Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Boxing News : Ring Awards Pacquiao, But Says Marquez Won

Can you believe this crap? It was close fight and the judges saw it the way they saw it. We all have to live with that now. It's not like the last Casamayor fight where it was total washout. It was an incredibly competitive fight.

Conflict of interest in it's purest form.

Golden Boy is hurting the sport in more ways now. How did they ever think that buying that company would give the sport any credibility with MMA breathing down boxings neck.

Said it before and will again....GBP will hurt this sport more then help it before all is through