Thread: Collazo vs. Berto

What do you guys think?

I think this would be a relatively even match-up at this stage of both of their careers, Collazo only has a bad record IMO because he stepped up much earlier than Berto.

Originally Posted by killersheep

What do you guys think?

I think this would be a relatively even match-up at this stage of both of their careers, Collazo only has a bad record IMO because he stepped up much earlier than Berto.

Killersheep you read my mind the last few days i have been saying Berto needs to fight someone like Collazo, who isn't top Welterweight but is good enough to test him then we can see what kind of level Berto is at. Not really sure how Berto will deal with Collazo's slickness but Collazo isn't big puncher plus his out put is very low as well which will hurt him against Berto. I think Collazo will give Berto fits for about 4 rounds but once Berto starts to really lay down the pressure Collazo won't be able to cope IMO, and i can actually see Berto stopping Collazo late on.

Collazo is very under rated, the Hatton fight could have gone his way and he was injured during the Molsey fight, he is a former World Champ who has won and defended the WBA Belt, albeit against not the toughest out there, he has been stopped once in his career but he will certainly give Berto a great fight.

Off the top.......I think Collazo,Boxing in peak form could Beat Berto.Berto would have to make it a facefirst Issue.He has shown Niiice hand speed power in last couple (Berto) and could hurt Collazo Early but needs to develope some gears to live at top teir Imo.Collazo needs to find some activity level.

I was shocked that Hatton could not walk down Collazo like Rivera was able to do for a good portion of his bout with Collazo. Collazo had the faster feet versus Hatton and that kept him out of a lot of trouble imo. Collazo is a good boxer just has no punching power and he can't fight on the reverse which is where I think Berto would have him. He would give him some problems with his slickness and accuracy but would eventually be run down imo. I know it was a long time ago but Rivera gave Collazo hell on the ropes which is where I think they would end up. Would definitely favor Berto here.

Originally Posted by amat

I was shocked that Hatton could not walk down Collazo like Rivera was able to do for a good portion of his bout with Collazo. Collazo had the faster feet versus Hatton and that kept him out of a lot of trouble imo. Collazo is a good boxer just has no punching power and he can't fight on the reverse which is where I think Berto would have him. He would give him some problems with his slickness and accuracy but would eventually be run down imo. I know it was a long time ago but Rivera gave Collazo hell on the ropes which is where I think they would end up. Would definitely favor Berto here.

Ive always put that down to motivation.. The hatton fight was bigger.. he had the motivation.. He was in tip top shape.. he had the rivera, gonzalez fights behind him title fight experience.. it was his defense.. he wasnt the challenger and he fought like the champ..

I actually cant believe people are writing off collazo against berto..

Honestly it takes 5 - 8 rounds til collazo breaks him down and stops him..

He's slick.. good chin.. Berto would make it close.. that little bit faster but collazo is that little bit slicker.. better counter puncher.. and for 3 rounds you'd see them both punching off eachothers punches.. and nothing in the rounds.. then collazo's work to the body would start to break berto down..

I think Berto by late stoppage. I see his power being the difference.

I have to go with Berto too, I think it would be a good match-up & Collazo would cause some problems but I think Berto would start to overwhelm Luis at the later stages.

Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

Off the top.......I think Collazo,Boxing in peak form could Beat Berto.Berto would have to make it a facefirst Issue.He has shown Niiice hand speed power in last couple (Berto) and could hurt Collazo Early but needs to develope some gears to live at top teir Imo.Collazo needs to find some activity level.

i totally agree with that ..

Lou needs to start fighting more often..

Where he's at now.. hes having a bit of a shit time.. Cos hes been at this top level.. and he wants to fight often.. but against the right competition.. he doesnt want these bums and nobody is fighting him..

He fought the hatton fight and the sugar shane fight.. and he needs to be back in the mix..

He had the fight with clottey all set up.. Clottey pulls out.

He was sposed to fight on the undercard of tito - jones against jorge linares' brother.. linares pulled out with an injury i think..

So he fights the dos santos barros guy at short notice for barros and shuts him out.. real skillful performance btw

.. And barros isnt any sort of contender but hes a pretty good guy.. he was one of cotto's chief sparring partners for the malignaggi fight and hes had some good experiance better then his record would sujest

I think people are under estimating Berto, I mean Cotto went through much deeper waters against Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley before he even started touching guys like Collazo, but now he is on top of the world, I think Berto is bound to be a top 5 p4p in the next few years, and is definitely the hardest hitting legitimate prosect, not to mention he pretty fast to. So basically what I am saying is that I feel that Collazo can't hurt Berto, I don't think he can keep up with Berto pace wise, and he would be the perfect measuring stick because nobody has given Berto even a close fight.

Originally Posted by Taeth

I think people are under estimating Berto, I mean Cotto went through much deeper waters against Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley before he even started touching guys like Collazo, but now he is on top of the world, I think Berto is bound to be a top 5 p4p in the next few years, and is definitely the hardest hitting legitimate prosect, not to mention he pretty fast to. So basically what I am saying is that I feel that Collazo can't hurt Berto, I don't think he can keep up with Berto pace wise, and he would be the perfect measuring stick because nobody has given Berto even a close fight.

The more I think on it I like this one but Berto has faced nothing close to a Corley or Torres at there respected points Vs.Cotto.He Has shown Improvment with handspeed and some accuracy but is jumping into the deep end without going through some top tier acid test's, respect to Perinial Rivera and Tough Estrada. Southpaw solid mover and hitter like Collazo whole nother level when in top form.

Corley wasn't anything by the time Cotto fought him, and he continues to be punching bag judging by what Devon did to him. I think Collazo is a fine stepping stone for Berto because he has no punching power. He was overwhelmed by Mosley, and Berto would do the same thing. I am not saying Collazo isn't a good proffesional, I am just saying that Berto doesn't have a whole lot of stepping stones left between him and guys like Collazo, Judah, etc.