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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    Off the top.......I think Collazo,Boxing in peak form could Beat Berto.Berto would have to make it a facefirst Issue.He has shown Niiice hand speed power in last couple (Berto) and could hurt Collazo Early but needs to develope some gears to live at top teir Imo.Collazo needs to find some activity level.

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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    I was shocked that Hatton could not walk down Collazo like Rivera was able to do for a good portion of his bout with Collazo. Collazo had the faster feet versus Hatton and that kept him out of a lot of trouble imo. Collazo is a good boxer just has no punching power and he can't fight on the reverse which is where I think Berto would have him. He would give him some problems with his slickness and accuracy but would eventually be run down imo. I know it was a long time ago but Rivera gave Collazo hell on the ropes which is where I think they would end up. Would definitely favor Berto here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I was shocked that Hatton could not walk down Collazo like Rivera was able to do for a good portion of his bout with Collazo. Collazo had the faster feet versus Hatton and that kept him out of a lot of trouble imo. Collazo is a good boxer just has no punching power and he can't fight on the reverse which is where I think Berto would have him. He would give him some problems with his slickness and accuracy but would eventually be run down imo. I know it was a long time ago but Rivera gave Collazo hell on the ropes which is where I think they would end up. Would definitely favor Berto here.

    Ive always put that down to motivation.. The hatton fight was bigger.. he had the motivation.. He was in tip top shape.. he had the rivera, gonzalez fights behind him title fight experience.. it was his defense.. he wasnt the challenger and he fought like the champ..

    I actually cant believe people are writing off collazo against berto..

    Honestly it takes 5 - 8 rounds til collazo breaks him down and stops him..

    He's slick.. good chin.. Berto would make it close.. that little bit faster but collazo is that little bit slicker.. better counter puncher.. and for 3 rounds you'd see them both punching off eachothers punches.. and nothing in the rounds.. then collazo's work to the body would start to break berto down..
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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

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    Sorry POB but i disagree although Collazo maybe be a good slick fighter, he hasn't got power nor has he got high activity level. I think there is a decent chance of Berto stopping Collazo depending on how well he closes the distance and how quickly in the fight.

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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

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    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

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    Sorry POB but i disagree although Collazo maybe be a good slick fighter, he hasn't got power nor has he got high activity level. I think there is a decent chance of Berto stopping Collazo depending on how well he closes the distance and how quickly in the fight.
    His activity level against Hatton was fine. It was poor against Mosely but that's because he broke his hand in the 2nd round.

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    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

    Hope this helps
    Sorry POB but i disagree although Collazo maybe be a good slick fighter, he hasn't got power nor has he got high activity level. I think there is a decent chance of Berto stopping Collazo depending on how well he closes the distance and how quickly in the fight.
    His activity level against Hatton was fine. It was poor against Mosely but that's because he broke his hand in the 2nd round.
    THat's ridiculous. His activity level was good against Hatton because Hatton came forward the entire fight, almost stubbornly so. Collazo is a good slick counterpuncher, who will eat up your average come forward type. The only reason Ricky didn't take more punishment in that fight is because of his own activity. Stylistically Hatton was a very good opponent for Collazo to look good against, especially since it was his first fight at welter. I think Mosley even took that fight as a blueprint to do better against Collazo. If you hadn't noticed, Mosley was almost hesitant to come forward against Collazo, though it is in his style, he was far more of a counter puncher in that fight than he has been in most of his bouts. I don't think it really matters whether Collazo really did hurt his hand or not, Shane had him figured out by the mid rounds anyways. Berto is more of an accurate one punch type fighter than Hatton is, and he has a fairly big frame for a welter. Don't get me wrong I think Collazo would be a great test for Berto, but I think Andre takes this one handily as it get's to the later stages. He just would need to fight smart and pick his spots, which from everything I've seen he already does well.

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    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

    Hope this helps
    Sorry POB but i disagree although Collazo maybe be a good slick fighter, he hasn't got power nor has he got high activity level. I think there is a decent chance of Berto stopping Collazo depending on how well he closes the distance and how quickly in the fight.
    His activity level against Hatton was fine. It was poor against Mosely but that's because he broke his hand in the 2nd round.
    Well first of Hatton forced Collazo to fight secondly Hatton wasn't putting effective pressure on Collazo. His punches were sloppy and they had no snap on them he wern't picking his spots, plus Hatton wasn't able to bully Collazo. Berto is bigger and stronger than Hatton at Welterweight and has the power to make Collazo more cautious and lower his activity level, plus he has the power to stop Collazo unlike Hatton, plus he has the size to bully Collazo on the inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

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    Finally some sense is creeping in. Collazo is way to much for him at this stage imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Geezus Christ!... People are underrating Collazo... If you people think Berto is stopping Collazo you're out of your mind...

    Hope this helps
    I agree Mike ,Berto has alot to prove for me , yes he is fast , yes he has some power , but lets see him do it in World class , as for Collazo id give him a fair chance , from what ive seen of both fighters , one thing is he can take a shot.

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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    That is a perfect test for Berto. I also would like to see him in with Josh Clottey. That would be a great action fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    That is a perfect test for Berto. I also would like to see him in with Josh Clottey. That would be a great action fight.

    And clottey beats him up with his leaky defense... You guys have to much faith in this untested fighter
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    Dont get me wrong berto is real good right now and hes really up and coming but i dont even think josh clottey is any good for him right now either.. He bangs to hard in my opinion..

    This is the problem for a prospect at welterweight.. there really arent enough fights for them.. Its all MEN LOL No boys.. Im half joking there but you can see what i mean.. to stick berto in with anyone witha title would be pretty harsh..

    I mean the biggest and best fights for him right now are still fights with guys like julio (Although is he doing his 154 thing now?).. Or even an undercard fight with alfonso gomez..

    Im not even sure i would stick him in with Quintana.. I would say thats a sweet fight for him before this last williams fight.. but now man.. i see carlos stopping a bro..
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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    Speaaking of quintana i just got a little news about my boy luis collazo..

    I keep in touch a bit with lou's pr guy Ed Rosa n he tells me Lou is currently in camp helping paul williams out with sparring for the rematch!

    Which is wicked news.. Keeping sharp and fit with no fights scheduled..
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    Default Re: Collazo vs. Berto

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    That is a perfect test for Berto. I also would like to see him in with Josh Clottey. That would be a great action fight.

    And clottey beats him up with his leaky defense... You guys have to much faith in this untested fighter
    I think both fighters beat Berto, but he needs to step un in class. Right now, he's rated in the top ten and he needs to fight a top 10 fighter so we know if he belongs there. Even if he losses it will be a learning experience for him because I haven't scene any improvement in his last few fights. Maybe Rodriguez can push him a little. So far, he's just powering his way through C grade fighters. Alvarez would be a good fight for him, too.

    Against Clottey he would need to outbox him, because Clottey is stronger. Against Collazo, he would be up against a more skilled, slicker guy. Either way, he would have to adapt his game or lose. Personally I think he's a bit overrated.

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