Thread: Why not, Haye takes out Wlad in less than four

Screw it, I want it to happen, and now I've convinced myself that it will happen, somewhere between the second and the fourth Wlad goes down and stays down.

Right hand.

And the world will be a better place

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Screw it, I want it to happen, and now I've convinced myself that it will happen, somewhere between the second and the fourth Wlad goes down and stays down.

Right hand.

And the world will be a better place

It could happen, I hope it does happen, but I don't think it will happen

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Screw it, I want it to happen, and now I've convinced myself that it will happen, somewhere between the second and the fourth Wlad goes down and stays down.

Right hand.

And the world will be a better place

Vice versa.

Freddie Roach said Oscar wouldnt last 9 rounds with Pac and then said the fight with Ricky wouldnt go 3 rounds so perhaps we should ask Freddie.

I still don't think he could beat Vitali, unfortunately.

but then again Vitali's just getting older and is fragile as hell.

Originally Posted by Tysonbruno

Freddie Roach said Oscar wouldnt last 9 rounds with Pac and then said the fight with Ricky wouldnt go 3 rounds so perhaps we should ask Freddie.

Roach was also right in the Diaz fight. The guy is creepy.

Originally Posted by OumaFan

I still don't think he could beat Vitali, unfortunately.

but then again Vitali's just getting older and is fragile as hell.

This is how I feel. Haye can beat Wlad. See it happening 100%. Wlad is a fraud. Its a fucking disgrace watching a guy fight who is afraid of being punched. He can't jab his way to victory because Haye won't let it happen. I agree he wouldn't beat Vitali, but I think Haye will embarrass Wlad in a big way.

If he can hit him he can put him down and keep him down.

If Haye is land to do what he is capable of I don't think Wlad stays awake, for me it's more of a question of whether Haye can deal with/elude what Wlad can throw at him and whether he can actually land on Wlad.

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Screw it, I want it to happen, and now I've convinced myself that it will happen, somewhere between the second and the fourth Wlad goes down and stays down.

Right hand.

And the world will be a better place

Anything can happen, but I think he has weakened his chances with the one heavyweight tuneup fight.

I mean he should have at least fought a taller heavyweight in another tuneup. If Haye can get inside he might do some damage, but can he get inside?

He may have pissed off Wlad enough though to make Wlad fight reckless. If Wlad fights pissed off, Hayes chances increase quite a bit IMO.

Originally Posted by Taeth

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

I agree to an extent, but I think he should be able to assert himself more whilst still avoiding getting hit. What he did to Sultan for the majority of their fight went well beyond boxing clever.

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by OumaFan

I still don't think he could beat Vitali, unfortunately.

but then again Vitali's just getting older and is fragile as hell.

This is how I feel. Haye can beat Wlad. See it happening 100%. Wlad is a fraud. Its a fucking disgrace watching a guy fight who is afraid of being punched. He can't jab his way to victory because Haye won't let it happen. I agree he wouldn't beat Vitali, but I think Haye will embarrass Wlad in a big way.

Wait till Lyle catches up with you lol

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Originally Posted by Taeth

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

I agree to an extent, but I think he should be able to assert himself more whilst still avoiding getting hit. What he did to Sultan for the majority of their fight went well beyond boxing clever.

Exactly. Sultan was too small to get close and Wlad could have finished it, but instead opted against and decided to bore the fans. Haye has been saying both Klitschko's are a joke but on that I disagree. I have the utmost respect for Vitali. He is a true champion. Wlad is there for the taking though.

Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

I'm feelin a Haye win inside a very short distance too OumaFan. Speed kills, that was what mike tyson was always taught by cus, and Haye has the speed with the power to stop Wlad. I witnessed something on saturday that involved a bigger man, and i was convinced he'd have too much. I now have much more respect for the speed and the timing of a so called smaller man.