Why not, Haye takes out Wlad in less than four

[bzkfn]

I still don't think he could beat Vitali, unfortunately.

but then again Vitali's just getting older and is fragile as hell.

This is how I feel. Haye can beat Wlad. See it happening 100%. Wlad is a fraud. Its a fucking disgrace watching a guy fight who is afraid of being punched. He can't jab his way to victory because Haye won't let it happen. I agree he wouldn't beat Vitali, but I think Haye will embarrass Wlad in a big way.

[AdamGB]

If he can hit him he can put him down and keep him down.

If Haye is land to do what he is capable of I don't think Wlad stays awake, for me it's more of a question of whether Haye can deal with/elude what Wlad can throw at him and whether he can actually land on Wlad.

[Taeth]

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

[AdamGB]

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

I agree to an extent, but I think he should be able to assert himself more whilst still avoiding getting hit. What he did to Sultan for the majority of their fight went well beyond boxing clever.

[bzkfn]

How do you feel Haye can stop Wlad from beating him with the jab? He is great at countering over the jab, but Wlad is equally good at not getting countered.

Also I think Wlad gets a bad wrap, people used to feel he was too eager and left himself open which he did considering his bad chin. Should he not at all costs stop people from punching him? I think he tried the first time around to be the great champion everyone wanted him to be, but he doesn't ahve the chin for that. WIth his new style he is still effective, and when he knows he can take a punch like agianst Thompson he definitely will take a shot to land one.

I agree to an extent, but I think he should be able to assert himself more whilst still avoiding getting hit. What he did to Sultan for the majority of their fight went well beyond boxing clever.

Exactly. Sultan was too small to get close and Wlad could have finished it, but instead opted against and decided to bore the fans. Haye has been saying both Klitschko's are a joke but on that I disagree. I have the utmost respect for Vitali. He is a true champion. Wlad is there for the taking though.

[Taeth]

Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

[TheMacMagician]

I'm feelin a Haye win inside a very short distance too OumaFan. Speed kills, that was what mike tyson was always taught by cus, and Haye has the speed with the power to stop Wlad. I witnessed something on saturday that involved a bigger man, and i was convinced he'd have too much. I now have much more respect for the speed and the timing of a so called smaller man.

[TheDemolitionDan]

Speed kills and size isn't what it seems to be. We have all witnessed this with all kinds of fights and fights of this year in particular.

Hatton (size) Pacquiao (speed)
Margarito (size) Mosley (speed)
Diaz (size) Marquez (not really known for his speed, but you get my point the bigger man lost)

These have been the three biggest fights of the year thus far. Power has lost all three times. My mind has been set, I'm going with Haye in the upset.

[Majesty]

Anyone know who Haye is sparring with?

And this would make a reat 24/7 HBO series. They should do it quickly!

[Gandalf]

I hope Haye does it but I have a hard time seeing it. Wlad will not be looking to knock out Haye despite what he says. He will work the jab and try to bank rounds by doing the minimal work he can. It's all about Haye managing to get around the jab and land clean on Wlad which is not easy because Wlad can be very safety first. Especially against a puncher like Haye.

Hopefully, Wlad loses the plot and we get a war, but if not it could be a long nights work for Haye.

[leftylee]

Anyone know who Haye is sparring with?

And this would make a reat 24/7 HBO series. They should do it quickly!

Haye's main sparring partner is David Price, a 6 foot 8 heavyweight olympic medalist recently turned pro from Liverpool.

[DaxxKahn]

Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

I agree, Sultan may not be an exciting fighter but he was a good boxer who had a sturdy chin, Better then Hayes I would put money on

[Nameless]

I would say possible but very unlikely, Haye can complain about Wlad's jab but he doesn't seem to realize that his jab is like an hydraulic piston and that he can't out-power him. I say Wlad by K.O around the seven.

[ICB]

Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

Sorry but Sultan Ibragimov fought so defensively against Wladimir Klitschko it wasn't even funny. And Wladimir Klitschko wasn't much better i don't see the comparison.

Sultan Ibragimov doesn't bring the kind of danger David Haye does with power, and lets be frank here why does everyone feel Sultan Ibragimov is so good ?

He was dropped against Ray Austin and fought him to a life and death draw. He won a pretty poor decision over a fighter that can't fight for more than 10 seconds of a round, and possibly the worst title holder in the history of the Heavyweight division aka Shannon Briggs.

And then Sultan Ibragimov won by about 5 rounds against a 44 year old Evander Holyfield, who hasn't been good since the late 90's. So tell me what is that good about Sultan Ibragimov ? because i honestly don't see why the Wladimir Klitschko fans rant about him so much.

[Taeth]

Did Klitschko not win every round against a guy who could give Haye a really tough fight? Ibragimov got silver in the olympics, he is has good speed, boxing skills, he's southpaw, has decent power, and is only an inch shorter than Haye. It was Wlad's speed and ability to dictate range that made Ibragimov so ordinary.

Sorry but Sultan Ibragimov fought so defensively against Wladimir Klitschko it wasn't even funny. And Wladimir Klitschko wasn't much better i don't see the comparison.

Sultan Ibragimov doesn't bring the kind of danger David Haye does with power, and lets be frank here why does everyone feel Sultan Ibragimov is so good ?

He was dropped against Ray Austin and fought him to a life and death draw. He won a pretty poor decision over a fighter that can't fight for more than 10 seconds of a round, and possibly the worst title holder in the history of the Heavyweight division aka Shannon Briggs.

And then Sultan Ibragimov won by about 5 rounds against a 44 year old Evander Holyfield, who hasn't been good since the late 90's. So tell me what is that good about Sultan Ibragimov ? because i honestly don't see why the Wladimir Klitschko fans rant about him so much.

He beat Shannon Briggs easily, give me a break, and he had a bad night against Ray Austin. Did Haye not get ko'ed by Carl Thompson? Honestly watch Ibragimov, he has good countering ability, he moves well, he has excellent speed for a heavyweight, had he not retired IMO he would beat Samuel Peter, Chagaev, Eddie Chambers, and would give Povetchkin a good fight. Ibragimov doesn't hit as hard as Haye, I am not sure there are many heavyweight that have that true power David possesses, but he does hit hard enough to badly hurt Klitschko if he had caught him cleanly on the chin.

Do you know why Ibragimov couldn't get off? Or Chris Byrd? Or the other guys who were fast that faced Wladimir? Because Wlad when he throws his jab is very hard to counter, it is a much quicker jab than people appreciate and it lands like a hammer.

The fact is both Klitschko and Haye are both exceptionally special fighters with three major flaws
1) No chin
2) lack of stamina
3) Could have better defensive skills(Klitschko could be taken off this list as of late).

I don't think this is a definite win for Klitschko, David Haye is the fastest and most athletic fighter he will have ever faced, and going against what I used to believe probably has the best knockout power, he might not literally hit as hard as Brewster or Sanders or Peter, but with that speed and accuracy he lands harder than anyone I've seen since Tyson.