Thread: So the fight is off but how the hell is it Mayweathers fault???

Ive just read 2 statements about the fight being off on The Ring magazine site and i have to laugh at Bob Arum and co basically trying to blame Mayweather for the fight not happening. Now stop me if im wrong but this is how i see it they worked all the differences out the fight could go a head but Mayweather still wanted the random blood testing and why wouldn't he so if the fight is off for this reason surely its Pacquiao who doesn't want the fight. Also no matter how many times he says he hasn't used steroids or any other PED's and no matter who he sues for tarnishing his reputation he has basically tarnished it all himself by refusing these random blood tests so on a whole Mayweather didn't scrap the fight Pacquiao and the random blood tests did.

They are just trying to spin it so that their fighter doesn't look bad.

The facts speak for themselves. Manny has turned down a mega fight because he refuses to subscribe to random blood testing.

Spin it how you like, but that is why we have no fight.

Nice one, Manny!

Im gutted this fight isn't happening as i expect every boxing fan in the world is can't believe Pacquaio wouldn't do the random blood tests he has just thrown $40m away

Both fighters are being pathetic, but all Manny needed to do was submit to random blood testing. Hardly enough to make the sky fall down and it would have ensured that boxing at the highest level is clean. Is that really too much to ask?

Why has Mayweather requested the drug test in the first place when Manny has never been questioned in the past. Dont get me wrong im as gutted as the next man this fight is off, if thats the case

bye bye $40M or whatever amount floydie & MP stands to earn.

i hope the irs, creditors, mafia etc run after floydjr

as for mannyP, he's filthy rich now here in the philippines...and in the USofA

bye lo$er$

oh btw, NIKE's still with manny pacquiao...

Originally Posted by pacQ

bye bye $40M or whatever amount floydie & MP stands to earn.

i hope the irs, creditors, mafia etc run after floydjr

as for mannyP, he's filthy rich now here in the philippines...and in the USofA

bye lo$er$

oh btw, NIKE's still with manny pacquiao...

Yes, I am also glad about that. It makes all the difference, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by pacQ

bye bye $40M or whatever amount floydie & MP stands to earn.

i hope the irs, creditors, mafia etc run after floydjr

as for mannyP, he's filthy rich now here in the philippines...and in the USofA

bye lo$er$

oh btw, NIKE's still with manny pacquiao...

Yes, I am also glad about that. It makes all the difference, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by pacQ

bye bye $40M or whatever amount floydie & MP stands to earn.

i hope the irs, creditors, mafia etc run after floydjr

as for mannyP, he's filthy rich now here in the philippines...and in the USofA

bye lo$er$

oh btw, NIKE's still with manny pacquiao...

Oh so it's a money contest? I thought you wanted to see the fight.
I really don't care about the money they have/potentially have, I'm a boxing fan I want to see the fight.

Originally Posted by pacQ

bye bye $40M or whatever amount floydie & MP stands to earn.

i hope the irs, creditors, mafia etc run after floydjr

as for mannyP, he's filthy rich now here in the philippines...and in the USofA

bye lo$er$

oh btw, NIKE's still with manny pacquiao...

Good to know that Manny Pacquiao is still considered an honest, trustworthy character by a company that has violated minimum wage & child labour laws throughout many of the poorest countries in the world.

First off I thought you were gone till this fight was confirmed??

Secondly I am on Pac's side after what he brought to the table in this latest attmept to get this fight on imo Floyd never wanted this fight, Pac brought Scientists to the table and agreed to the following which is not in the rules of usual Nevada fights so he has agreed to some of Floyds demands:

1. blood test before the Press Conference
2. blood test 24 days before the fight
3. blood test at the dressing room right after the fight (if anyone took any substance as aid for the fight, it wouldn't magically disappear fifteen minutes after right?)
4. unlimited urine testing during the whole training period (urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH)

how could any sane boxer cheat with this?


Floyd turned this offer down flat, so how the fuck is Manny to blame for this fight being off??

Floyd wouldnt budge Manny would and these tests he said he would take are fine with me and would be with any other person expect little Floyd.

Originally Posted by skel1983

First off I thought you were gone till this fight was confirmed??

Secondly I am on Pac's side after what he brought to the table in this latest attmept to get this fight on imo Floyd never wanted this fight, Pac brought Scientists to the table and agreed to the following which is not in the rules of usual Nevada fights so he has agreed to some of Floyds demands:

1. blood test before the Press Conference
2. blood test 24 days before the fight
3. blood test at the dressing room right after the fight (if anyone took any substance as aid for the fight, it wouldn't magically disappear fifteen minutes after right?)
4. unlimited urine testing during the whole training period (urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH)

how could any sane boxer cheat with this?


Floyd turned this offer down flat, so how the fuck is Manny to blame for this fight being off??

Floyd wouldnt budge Manny would and these tests he said he would take are fine with me and would be with any other person expect little Floyd.

Nope what you take doesn't disappear out of your system 15 minutes after the fight but it can be unable to be traced 24 days before a fight.

The thing Mayweather mainly wanted was random drug tests. As in Pacquiao having no knowledge when he is gonna get his blood drawn. If you know when you're gonna get your blood drawn it doesnt stop you from doing anything afterwards. If I know im gonna get drug tested right after the press conference and then 24 days before the fight I can do whatever I want in between and pretty much predict when it will be out of my system. Urine tests can be beaten, its been shown before and it will be shown again.

Again, I do not understand why Pacquiao doesn't want to have random drug tests. Bolt got multiple MULTIPLE drug tests and still set records during the Olympics. So I don't see why Pacquiao can't.

The big question mark I see is Pacquiao wanting to dictate when his blood is drawn, that to me is shady. Obviously we know Urine tests can be beaten, and thats the only one he's willing to take randomly, but he doesn't share that confidence in bood tests. Which means if he IS on something, then its something untraceable in urine but traceable in blood.

Just my two cents, but Pacquiao's reluctance to random blood testing but openness to urine ones really has me wondering. Fact of the matter is, this fight will not happen because Pacquiao wants to dictate when his blood is drawn. Now using an example if someone is accused of stealing and the police come to his house and ask if they can enter to check around. Now if the guy stole something and he asks the cops to come back two days later and they agree to what do you think he is gonna do? He is going to hide whatever it is they are looking for or he is gonna make sure it is out of his house by the time they get there, so when they check its nothing but when they leave he takes it out again.


Same is said here, if Pacquiao's blood, key word BLOOD tests aren't random, he can pretty much dictate when he knows it will probably be in his system and when it won't be. As in nothing stops him from doing it right after cause he basically knows after the press conference he doesn't have to blood test again till 24 days before the fight. Thats a whole 2 or 3 months.

Get what Im saying? If the blood tests are RANDOM there is no way to dictate that so his safest bet would be to not use them at all or he'd be caught. And in my opinion thats the best way.

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by skel1983

First off I thought you were gone till this fight was confirmed??

Secondly I am on Pac's side after what he brought to the table in this latest attmept to get this fight on imo Floyd never wanted this fight, Pac brought Scientists to the table and agreed to the following which is not in the rules of usual Nevada fights so he has agreed to some of Floyds demands:

1. blood test before the Press Conference
2. blood test 24 days before the fight
3. blood test at the dressing room right after the fight (if anyone took any substance as aid for the fight, it wouldn't magically disappear fifteen minutes after right?)
4. unlimited urine testing during the whole training period (urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH)

how could any sane boxer cheat with this?


Floyd turned this offer down flat, so how the fuck is Manny to blame for this fight being off??

Floyd wouldnt budge Manny would and these tests he said he would take are fine with me and would be with any other person expect little Floyd.

Nope what you take doesn't disappear out of your system 15 minutes after the fight but it can be unable to be traced 24 days before a fight.

The thing Mayweather mainly wanted was random drug tests. As in Pacquiao having no knowledge when he is gonna get his blood drawn. If you know when you're gonna get your blood drawn it doesnt stop you from doing anything afterwards. If I know im gonna get drug tested right after the press conference and then 24 days before the fight I can do whatever I want in between and pretty much predict when it will be out of my system. Urine tests can be beaten, its been shown before and it will be shown again.

Again, I do not understand why Pacquiao doesn't want to have random drug tests. Bolt got multiple MULTIPLE drug tests and still set records during the Olympics. So I don't see why Pacquiao can't.

The big question mark I see is Pacquiao wanting to dictate when his blood is drawn, that to me is shady. Obviously we know Urine tests can be beaten, and thats the only one he's willing to take randomly, but he doesn't share that confidence in bood tests. Which means if he IS on something, then its something untraceable in urine but traceable in blood.

Just my two cents, but Pacquiao's reluctance to random blood testing but openness to urine ones really has me wondering. Fact of the matter is, this fight will not happen because Pacquiao wants to dictate when his blood is drawn. Now using an example if someone is accused of stealing and the police come to his house and ask if they can enter to check around. Now if the guy stole something and he asks the cops to come back two days later and they agree to what do you think he is gonna do? He is going to hide whatever it is they are looking for or he is gonna make sure it is out of his house by the time they get there, so when they check its nothing but when they leave he takes it out again.


Same is said here, if Pacquiao's blood, key word BLOOD tests aren't random, he can pretty much dictate when he knows it will probably be in his system and when it won't be. As in nothing stops him from doing it right after cause he basically knows after the press conference he doesn't have to blood test again till 24 days before the fight. Thats a whole 2 or 3 months.

Get what Im saying? If the blood tests are RANDOM there is no way to dictate that so his safest bet would be to not use them at all or he'd be caught. And in my opinion thats the best way.

Wow Majesty got his dick stuck up Mayweather's arse would never have guessed that .

Go do a little reserch on the urine side of things .

Maybe Floyd wanted a blood test after every round?? Do you reckon that would of been sufficent?

Basically Al Haymon and GBP are OK but Floyd simply dumps the offer.
AL Haymon and GBP believes in Floyd Jr. but Floyd I think he's not ready to fight.

Wow comparing an olympian Bolt to a fighter? who has more brutal sport of the two?
Can we name in U.S and England boxers currently using this DAYS style of blood screening?

Can we determine the difference the 24days before and after the fight blood testing? If Pac found guilty after the fight it will tarnished he's legacy as simple as that.

Well Pacquiao doesnt need $40M I guess $10-12M dollars is very huge in his country.

Maybe Floyd needs it....we know..thats why he's back... but his ego to much seems to laugh by making his own commission on boxing,

Now he's goin for M.Hatton and Malignaggi this is a joke for boxing really. He's been around five years in WELTERS. Thats why he accused of ducking

Floyd vs. Mosley is good better than Pac-Foreman. Pac could really lose to bigger undefeated champion foreman.

but FloydJr. vs. M.Hatton/Malignaggi - complete joke!


What tryin to say here I would believe that Floyd Jr. can WIN EASILY with Pacquiao no doubt about that, physically reach advantage even speed and experience as welters.

Both found clean by NSCA. GBP and AL Haymon wants it because they believe of FLoyd, and why FLoyd doesnt want it?