Thread: Frank Warrens column..

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-for-HGH.html

I'VE written before about the use of Human Growth Hormone by boxers - a highly relevant topic given the current row between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.

Their fight has fallen apart because Mayweather wants Pacquiao to undergo the same kind of drug tests that Olympic athletes are subject to, including blood samples.
Pacquiao says he is happy to conform to The Nevada State Athletic Commission's regulation to give urine and three blood samples - two before the fight and one after it - but believes that having too much blood taken shortly before the fight will unfairly weaken him.
Manny has never been caught for doping offences and there is no suggestion whatsoever that he is guilty of any wrongdoing.
But he is suing Mayweather's camp for defamation, saying they alleged he took performance-enhancing drugs.
The use of growth hormone could be an increasing problem within boxing.
There is a strong rumour one British fighter - and his trainer - have been taking it.
HGH, a naturally-occurring substance, adds bulk if taken in excessive amounts and is seen by some idiots as the perfect pill for fighters who want to move quickly into higher weight divisions.
The British Boxing Board of Control get a lot of things right when it comes to protecting the safety and interests of boxers, and I'd like to see fighters randomly tested for HGH.
As for Mayweather-Pacquiao, there have been reports in the last few days that the fight is definitely dead in the water, despite arbitration involving a retired judge.
Don't be surprised if the fight gets resurrected sometime in 2010 though - there's too much money on the table for it not to happen.
However, I do have a feeling Mayweather is using this controversy to avoid Pacquiao.
Talking of Pacquiao, he was the second most-searched-for person on Yahoo last year, just behind Jennifer Lopez.
That's always a good place to be!

AMIR KHAN'S mandatory WBA light-welterweight title defence against Argentinian Marcos Maidana will go to purse bids this week after those involved couldn't come to an agreement.

I HEAR May 31 has been pencilled in for Ricky Hatton's comeback. The Hitman has not fought since losing to Manny Pacquiao last May.


First off Jennifer Lopez? Surely that cant be rite she hasnt really been in the main spotlight for years .

Secondly who do you reckon bitter Frank is talking about? Deffo got to be Haye/Booth on the old HGH subject.

I agree he must be on about Haye.

Warren's a dick, i hate reading his column because its always talking bad about fighters that split with him or didnt want anything to do with him (calzaghe, Froch, Haye, Hatton)

Originally Posted by mattboxingfan

Warren's a dick, i hate reading his column because its always talking bad about fighters that split with him or didnt want anything to do with him (calzaghe, Froch, Haye, Hatton)

Yeah I get tired of him having little digs at fighters who left him or fighters that bashed his fighters up or any successful British promotions that don't involve him.

Frank has his uses and has done a LOT for British boxing in the past and I will respect that but these days he is just a bitter bastard.

I don't know about it being Haye as he always has good things to say about Haye...and actually Froch aswell.

Having said that, Booth has some decent guns on him and i can't think of who else it could be. Maybe it's TM and Kid Thunder.

WOW!!!

I dont know how I missed it, but it looks like Khan and Warren have partied company, Warren at the bottom of the article says " the people involved couldnt come to an agreement " Why the fuck would he say that if he was in Khans corner??

Looks over to me.

One thing for sure: the rumors he's talking aren't concerning Hatton for obvious reasons or any fighters working with him. Haye is the first name coming to mind because he's one of the big attraction in the UK at the moment but if he only has had good words for him, maybe we should consider another venue as an alternative. I know that A-Force did say a lot of bad things about Warren and the opposite as well, could it be that he was the one targeted? Wouldn't be impossible as Audley is trying to get some meaningful win and to revitalize his career...

Originally Posted by ono

I don't know about it being Haye as he always has good things to say about Haye...and actually Froch aswell.

Having said that, Booth has some decent guns on him and i can't think of who else it could be. Maybe it's TM and Kid Thunder.

I thought it was quite obvious he meant Haye/Booth, as soon as he says there is a strong rumour about a fighter/trainer takeing it, he then goes onto say what he thinks it is used for, bulking and moveing up weight. IMO deffo suttle hints from Franky there.

Originally Posted by ono

I don't know about it being Haye as he always has good things to say about Haye...and actually Froch aswell.

Having said that, Booth has some decent guns on him and i can't think of who else it could be. Maybe it's TM and Kid Thunder.

Fortunately for him, Kid Thunder doesn't follow the shallow and dubious long distance hints of TM anymore.

Originally Posted by skel1983

WOW!!!

I dont know how I missed it, but it looks like Khan and Warren have partied company, Warren at the bottom of the article says " the people involved couldnt come to an agreement " Why the fuck would he say that if he was in Khans corner??

Looks over to me.

Also reading between the lines "one british fighter and his trainer" suggests to me the trainer isnt British.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by ono

I don't know about it being Haye as he always has good things to say about Haye...and actually Froch aswell.

Having said that, Booth has some decent guns on him and i can't think of who else it could be. Maybe it's TM and Kid Thunder.

I thought it was quite obvious he meant Haye/Booth, as soon as he says there is a strong rumour about a fighter/trainer takeing it, he then goes onto say what he thinks it is used for, bulking and moveing up weight. IMO deffo suttle hints from Franky there.

I actually reckon he might be talking about Khan, if it's true that they have parted company. He knows that discrediting him if he leaves him isn't a bad idea & we know he loves to do it about fighters who leave him.

It might be Haye, but I suspect it's Amir he's talking about.

I think it is Haye as he still has ties with Amir, but if he loses him then he will talk crap about Amir too.

Originally Posted by skel1983

WOW!!!

I dont know how I missed it, but it looks like Khan and Warren have partied company, Warren at the bottom of the article says " the people involved couldnt come to an agreement " Why the fuck would he say that if he was in Khans corner??

Looks over to me.

that measn he and the other team could not agree terms/venue...

Khan is under contract.

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by ono

I don't know about it being Haye as he always has good things to say about Haye...and actually Froch aswell.

Having said that, Booth has some decent guns on him and i can't think of who else it could be. Maybe it's TM and Kid Thunder.

I thought it was quite obvious he meant Haye/Booth, as soon as he says there is a strong rumour about a fighter/trainer takeing it, he then goes onto say what he thinks it is used for, bulking and moveing up weight. IMO deffo suttle hints from Franky there.

I actually reckon he might be talking about Khan, if it's true that they have parted company. He knows that discrediting him if he leaves him isn't a bad idea & we know he loves to do it about fighters who leave him.

It might be Haye, but I suspect it's Amir he's talking about.

I thought so too , with the 'British fighter and ...his trainer comment.

I think he's having a pop at Haye and his diminutive trainer. You've got to hand it to Frank, he never misses an opportunity.