Thread: Why did manny stay with bob arum?

Lets not go to off topic..

Why did he stay?

What is wrong in starting up something like "Pacman Promotions" and making 3-4 times what you earnt with top rank?!

Why why why.

Oscar left.

Floyd left.

Cotto left.

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.

Bob wouldn't have to say it himself. He could have any number of "sources" reveal it.

Well let me personally say manny doesnt come across as a bad person and I dont dislike him,

But please please can we leave all this bollocks about his great morals at the door.

We know as concrete facts he cheated on his wife numerous times.

We know as concrete facts he hired a third party to investigate his corrupt boss.

There are all the accusations of PED abuse including a back handed comment from his own bloody trainer.

He wouldnt exactly accept a facetime from graham norton and he covers his body in ungodly worldly body markings!

It doesnt make sense and so far the arguement for him staying is pretty damn weak..

I think it's fair to compare a PED exposed and disgraced Manny to Lance Armstrong. Armstrong was a hero to millions around the world for his incredible achievements in the world of cycling as well as for the multi multi multi millions of dollars ($600 million) his Livestrong campaign had raised. He is now a leper. Considered ultimate scum by most. He lost all credit for his cycling achievements and Livestrong has disowned him. Manny's reputation would drop just as far and just as fast.

I do not think it is the PED allegations otherwise he would also be complicit. Most people suspect it but it is not proven. He is not on it now so it is not an issue.