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    Default Re: Why did manny stay with bob arum?

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    My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.
    I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

    Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

    He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?
    If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

    He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.
    Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

    Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.
    Bob wouldn't have to say it himself. He could have any number of "sources" reveal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
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    My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.
    I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

    Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

    He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?
    If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

    He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.
    Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

    Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.
    Bob wouldn't have to say it himself. He could have any number of "sources" reveal it.
    Fair play.

    Whatever the reason its a shame because manny has lost out big time on the £££££

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    Default Re: Why did manny stay with bob arum?

    Yup.

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    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.
    HAhahaha!

    Manny has cheated on his wife more than once.

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    Default Re: Why did manny stay with bob arum?

    I think Arum has some dirt on him, probably in regards to PEDs. There's no other explanation why you'd stay with a guy you hired a third party to investigate because he was stealing money from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.
    HAhahaha!

    Manny has cheated on his wife more than once.
    Don't take this as, I'm defending the guy or his culture for the life style, mistakes and sins.

    Ok so My Bad, I guess it not that obvious to some and you obviously don't know philippine culture very well. He didn't abandon his wife and at least publicly reconciled his womanizing ways. It is not uncommon for successful men in the philippines to have a mistress and often the wife knows. So it's don't ask don't tell. I've heard wife's talking about the issue (trying to calm the temper) that they should be happy because she's the wife that he comes home to. That it is a mans nature and you have to let them get out there. (I don't agree, I'm just saying this is the attitude I've been exposed to there.) Many guys get together for a night out (drinking and bar girls) and don't make it home that evening. It is accepted. It dosn't mean there are not problems. It's just part of the culture. I worked in a company that had an office in the Philippines and the US divorce rate, with the married men sent there, was over 80%. If you have money, the girls are very agressive at chasing you.

    People aren't perfect and typical fail at trying to be. If those ring girls were putting it in my face and telling me they wouldn't tell my wife, I doubt I could resist and for sure wouldn't want to resist if I thought, I could get away with it. He's just a freaking man, that wears his heart on his sleeve. The question is why did he say with Arum, while others as an example, left and earned more money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.
    HAhahaha!

    Manny has cheated on his wife more than once.
    Don't take this as, I'm defending the guy or his culture for the life style, mistakes and sins.

    Ok so My Bad, I guess it not that obvious to some and you obviously don't know philippine culture very well. He didn't abandon his wife and at least publicly reconciled his womanizing ways. It is not uncommon for successful men in the philippines to have a mistress and often the wife knows. So it's don't ask don't tell. I've heard wife's talking about the issue (trying to calm the temper) that they should be happy because she's the wife that he comes home to. That it is a mans nature and you have to let them get out there. (I don't agree, I'm just saying this is the attitude I've been exposed to there.) Many guys get together for a night out (drinking and bar girls) and don't make it home that evening. It is accepted. It dosn't mean there are not problems. It's just part of the culture. I worked in a company that had an office in the Philippines and the US divorce rate, with the married men sent there, was over 80%. If you have money, the girls are very agressive at chasing you.

    People aren't perfect and typical fail at trying to be. If those ring girls were putting it in my face and telling me they wouldn't tell my wife, I doubt I could resist and for sure wouldn't want to resist if I thought, I could get away with it. He's just a freaking man, that wears his heart on his sleeve. The question is why did he say with Arum, while others as an example, left and earned more money?
    So your faithful only because you couldn't get away with it. That's sad. I feel sad not for you but for your wife. I'm sure she deserves better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.
    HAhahaha!

    Manny has cheated on his wife more than once.
    Don't take this as, I'm defending the guy or his culture for the life style, mistakes and sins.

    Ok so My Bad, I guess it not that obvious to some and you obviously don't know philippine culture very well. He didn't abandon his wife and at least publicly reconciled his womanizing ways. It is not uncommon for successful men in the philippines to have a mistress and often the wife knows. So it's don't ask don't tell. I've heard wife's talking about the issue (trying to calm the temper) that they should be happy because she's the wife that he comes home to. That it is a mans nature and you have to let them get out there. (I don't agree, I'm just saying this is the attitude I've been exposed to there.) Many guys get together for a night out (drinking and bar girls) and don't make it home that evening. It is accepted. It dosn't mean there are not problems. It's just part of the culture. I worked in a company that had an office in the Philippines and the US divorce rate, with the married men sent there, was over 80%. If you have money, the girls are very agressive at chasing you.

    People aren't perfect and typical fail at trying to be. If those ring girls were putting it in my face and telling me they wouldn't tell my wife, I doubt I could resist and for sure wouldn't want to resist if I thought, I could get away with it. He's just a freaking man, that wears his heart on his sleeve. The question is why did he say with Arum, while others as an example, left and earned more money?
    So your faithful only because you couldn't get away with it. That's sad. I feel sad not for you but for your wife. I'm sure she deserves better.
    You jumping to conclusions dude. We aren't talking about me. You have no clue. One way or the other. Any "man" that says he would be faithful in a situation where he is tempted by a bueatiful woman and could get away with it and wouldn't, is 999 times out of a 1000 a lier or has something else wrong him or is possibly still infatuated with his new bride.

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    I keep seeing all these allegations about Paquaio & Ped's. Where is any proof he has ever used Ped's. These days it seems that if there is a fighter challenging your fav fighter & you have doubts your fighter can beat him, you start Ped's rumors about him. Vicious allegations with no credible back up is wrong. Of the two I'd think Floyd would be more suspect of using than Manny though I sincerely hope neither of them are
    Baseless accusations can ruin a fighters career eg Antonio Margarito. No one has ever produced proof he ever cheated but his good name was sullied
    I think Manny stays with Arum because he is happy with him & the way his career is going
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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.
    Come on fat jonny!

    This is not about comparing floyd with manny about values this is just about manny.

    Floyd is a c&nt if he beat his wife and I would be the first to spit in his face.

    Theres loads of tough guys with bad upbringings and single parent familes or poor situations.

    It cant be his values because he never had any when he cheated on his wife or hating homosexuals or scarring his godly body with tattoos etc

    How can anyone be loyal to a corrupt lawyer like bob arum.

    Jeez..get out the violin!

    He would make more money without bob arum and I want to know why or at least some decent theories why he stayed..

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    I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.
    Could be that.

    He is worshipped there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.
    Could be that.

    He is worshipped there.
    Why not leave Bob, make more money AND be a big celebrity and be George Foreman and be a politician.

    He hired someone to investigate his finances because he was being ripped off (like other Top Rank fighters have accused Bob of), so he must care.

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    It's a shame Momma Pacquaio's cross and voodoo ritual couldn't keep the thieving J** away....

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