Thread: MOST ATGs moved up in weight throughout history

Look how many weight classes great fighters like Floyd Mayweather and Roberto Duran for example and Oscar dela Hoya moved up through. Look at Roy Jones Jr who fought heavyweight. Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard. Great fighters superstars have to prove themselves not only for the sake of their own self realization but for the excitement of the sport and the fans.

There is no such thing as an 'all time great'; no one was suggesting Duran for instance was great a century ago...

Thinly veiled dig at Rocky Marciano again. Stop it, Brock.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Look how many weight classes great fighters like Floyd Mayweather and Roberto Duran for example and Oscar dela Hoya moved up through. Look at Roy Jones Jr who fought heavyweight. Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard. Great fighters superstars have to prove themselves not only for the sake of their own self realization but for the excitement of the sport and the fans.

And?

Had Marciano fought today he'd be a cruiserweight, how's that for a step up Granted he'd demolish Glowaki and Lebedev and have BJ Flores serving him drinks at the weigh in.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Thinly veiled dig at Rocky Marciano again. Stop it, Brock.

IneverdigatMarciano

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

True. But I said "most" not "all".

He should be given the opportunity to unify and become undisputed middleweight champion just like those other guys did. He should also be commended for wanting that goal. Shame Don King does not own all the players like he did for the Hopkins run to be undisputed. Its also a sad testimony for this era that all of these pretenders get to pretend and make millions while the real deal composts. Same with Stevenson. The Kovalev fight ought to be forced on both of them.

Yes, most of the top P4P fighters of all time won titles in more than one weight class. That's what P4P is, who's the best regardless of weight.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Another one would be Willie Pep.

[QUOTE=VG_Addict;1356182]

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Another one would be Willie Pep.[/QUOTE

Two more would be Aaron Pryor and Kostya Tszyu. Some fighters find that their body type and fighting style mesh perfectly at one particular weight and stay there. I don't necessarily agree that ATGs have to move up in weight to prove anything.

Originally Posted by mikeeod

Originally Posted by VG_Addict

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Another one would be Willie Pep.

Two more would be Aaron Pryor and Kostya Tszyu. Some fighters find that their body type and fighting style mesh perfectly at one particular weight and stay there. I don't necessarily agree that ATGs have to move up in weight to prove anything.

Pryor did move up though. Some suggest he peaked as a Lightweight before finally getting shot at the title when he moved up.

Originally Posted by Britkid

Originally Posted by mikeeod

Originally Posted by VG_Addict

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Another one would be Willie Pep.

Two more would be Aaron Pryor and Kostya Tszyu. Some fighters find that their body type and fighting style mesh perfectly at one particular weight and stay there. I don't necessarily agree that ATGs have to move up in weight to prove anything.

Pryor did move up though. Some suggest he peaked as a Lightweight before finally getting shot at the title when he moved up.

Exactly

Originally Posted by Britkid

Originally Posted by mikeeod

Originally Posted by VG_Addict

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Since this is a dig at GGG Brock , then here is an ATG who didn't move up - Marvin Hagler who was a great MW.

Another one would be Willie Pep.

Two more would be Aaron Pryor and Kostya Tszyu. Some fighters find that their body type and fighting style mesh perfectly at one particular weight and stay there. I don't necessarily agree that ATGs have to move up in weight to prove anything.

Pryor did move up though. Some suggest he peaked as a Lightweight before finally getting shot at the title when he moved up.

Pryor is known and ranked for his work at 140. If I'm not mistaken, GGG ahead his first few fights at 154, so by your logic he had moved up already. Point is, if he destroys everyone and completely cleans out his division, that is enough for ATG status. Same with Hagler, Tyson, Louis, Pep...etc.