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    Default 1993 Bowe vs 1967 Ali

    15 round decision?

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    Sorry, are we talking about another Ali here?

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    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response

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    Default Re: 1993 Bowe vs 1967 Ali

    1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

    He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

    By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

    Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

    By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

    He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

    By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

    Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

    He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

    By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

    Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

    By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

    He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

    By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

    Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.
    At some point though, Bowe surely must have some brief success with that good jab? Wouldn't land any looping overhand rights though. I think he catches Ali with some popping jabs when Ali steps into the pocket to launch that straight right arrow.

    Ali KO very, very late, like 11 or 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman
    I was thinking the same. Like I said before, the only differential that has an impact between eras is his size.
    Funnily enough its why I think it would be easier than Foreman. Bowe was quicker than Foreman and would go chasing Ali down. This means Ali wouldn't have to wait for him to tire and Bowe would be easy to find.

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    Default Re: 1993 Bowe vs 1967 Ali

    Bowe was at his peak 1992 to beat Holyfield and became a fat lazy champ 1993, so Ali should win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman
    I was thinking the same. Like I said before, the only differential that has an impact between eras is his size.
    Funnily enough its why I think it would be easier than Foreman. Bowe was quicker than Foreman and would go chasing Ali down. This means Ali wouldn't have to wait for him to tire and Bowe would be easy to find.
    You mean boweh would not Chase ali down right? Because Foreman was the one chasing ali the down. Bowe didn't really chase people he sort of plodded about I think he would try to land that huge overhand right but alie did not get hit with many rights. The left hook was the tough one and I don't remember boee having a really long left hookt I do remember he have some nice short left hooks inside though

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman
    I was thinking the same. Like I said before, the only differential that has an impact between eras is his size.
    Funnily enough its why I think it would be easier than Foreman. Bowe was quicker than Foreman and would go chasing Ali down. This means Ali wouldn't have to wait for him to tire and Bowe would be easy to find.
    You mean boweh would not Chase ali down right? Because Foreman was the one chasing ali the down. Bowe didn't really chase people he sort of plodded about I think he would try to land that huge overhand right but alie did not get hit with many rights. The left hook was the tough one and I don't remember boee having a really long left hookt I do remember he have some nice short left hooks inside though
    No what I meant was I believe Bowe had a bit more movement and was a tad quicker than Foreman, who although he went after Ali , he kind of plodded towards him, he didn't/couldn't really chase Ali down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman
    I was thinking the same. Like I said before, the only differential that has an impact between eras is his size.
    Funnily enough its why I think it would be easier than Foreman. Bowe was quicker than Foreman and would go chasing Ali down. This means Ali wouldn't have to wait for him to tire and Bowe would be easy to find.
    You mean boweh would not Chase ali down right? Because Foreman was the one chasing ali the down. Bowe didn't really chase people he sort of plodded about I think he would try to land that huge overhand right but alie did not get hit with many rights. The left hook was the tough one and I don't remember boee having a really long left hookt I do remember he have some nice short left hooks inside though
    No what I meant was I believe Bowe had a bit more movement and was a tad quicker than Foreman, who although he went after Ali , he kind of plodded towards him, he didn't/couldn't really chase Ali down.
    Yeah I agree that Riddick Bowe was deceptively quick. He would not be able to use his very successful inside game on Muhammad because Allie would not lay on his chest like Holyfield did. But would have to fight from the outside and I don't know anybody who can beat Alie from the outside in 1967

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response
    The meaning is that IMHO and I'm sure you disagree, Ali/Clay whatever would totally outclass Bowe. Yes , there is always a size difference comparing between the ages, but that aside, Bowe, decent fighter as he was, wasn't in the same league.😄
    No in fact I don't disagree. I think Allie would have had an easier time with bowe than he did with George Foreman
    I was thinking the same. Like I said before, the only differential that has an impact between eras is his size.
    Funnily enough its why I think it would be easier than Foreman. Bowe was quicker than Foreman and would go chasing Ali down. This means Ali wouldn't have to wait for him to tire and Bowe would be easy to find.
    You mean boweh would not Chase ali down right? Because Foreman was the one chasing ali the down. Bowe didn't really chase people he sort of plodded about I think he would try to land that huge overhand right but alie did not get hit with many rights. The left hook was the tough one and I don't remember boee having a really long left hookt I do remember he have some nice short left hooks inside though
    No what I meant was I believe Bowe had a bit more movement and was a tad quicker than Foreman, who although he went after Ali , he kind of plodded towards him, he didn't/couldn't really chase Ali down.
    Yeah I agree that Riddick Bowe was deceptively quick. He would not be able to use his very successful inside game on Muhammad because Allie would not lay on his chest like Holyfield did. But would have to fight from the outside and I don't know anybody who can beat Alie from the outside in 1967
    Agreed.😄

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    Default Re: 1993 Bowe vs 1967 Ali

    Bowe would give Ali nightmares in the ring his reach and size not mention how fast he was for his size nothing like that in the 1967. Ali would a have the same problems with Lewis but even worse Norton all over again pretty much. Ali in most of his fights was the taller man with longer reach take that away he still has speed on his side but it will make him look a lot more human. I not going to say who wins but it be ugly fight and would not be very exciting i feel the style clash makes it unwatchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

    He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

    By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

    Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

    By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

    He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

    By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

    Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.
    Exactly how I see it...first word to the final word. 1965-1967 Ali threw Punches moving forward not back peddling. Reflexes...God given talent.
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