1993 Bowe vs 1967 Ali

[brocktonblockbust]

I'm sorry I don't understand the meaning of that response

[X]

1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.

[brocktonblockbust]

1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.

At some point though, Bowe surely must have some brief success with that good jab? Wouldn't land any looping overhand rights though. I think he catches Ali with some popping jabs when Ali steps into the pocket to launch that straight right arrow.

Ali KO very, very late, like 11 or 12.

[SlimTrae]

1967 Ali was a seriously angry young man, and very cruel and spiteful in the ring.

He belittles and insults Bowe all the way through the build up, and he is not tongue in cheek or funny ..... He calls him fat and stupid, greedy and undisciplined, he turn the whole thing into a fight against Bowes religion.

By the time the first bell rings, Bowe is confused and defensive .... As well as being seriously intimidated by some of the people that hang around Ali.

Ali completely outclasses him in the ring, landing at will and mocking Bowe throughout. The size difference makes as much difference as it did with Ernie Terell, ie none.

By the sixth round, Bowe realises he can't get near Ali. He is cut, hurt and befuddled so he starts to look for a way out by fouling repeatedly.

He finds that he can't get close up to even foul.

By the eighth, he has shipped some serious punishment. Ali steps up the attack and begins to put some real pop in his punches. A lightning fast combination of hurtful blows all find their targets and Bowe goes down heavily. He fails to beat the count.

Critics rate this as Ali's best performance, even better than his ruthless dismantling of the Big Cat.

Exactly how I see it...first word to the final word. 1965-1967 Ali threw Punches moving forward not back peddling. Reflexes...God given talent.

[Spicoli]

Bowes biggest fight involved him doing bad Ali impressions sitting on the stool between rounds.

He knew who dad was . Really Ali would leave him in lurches and avoid the inside uppercuts from hell. I don't see Bowes jab as huge factor as 67' Ali simply would not be there. Sure sure, he'd be outsized and Bowe would look to bulldoze but that benefits Ali all the more. Bowes lumbering feet of 93' would betray him. Bowe didn't face much hand speed over all. Holyfield, Tubbs (didn't win that either) and Hide aside, Ali was on another planet.

[Master]

Bowe did have that jab, he also had the height and weight with a remarkable chin. Ali would have to work out how to beat those qualities.

[brocktonblockbust]

Bowe did have that jab, he also had the height and weight with a remarkable chin. Ali would have to work out how to beat those qualities.

Bowe took many heavy skull shots and wasn't ever KOed. Ali would NOT ko Bowe. You're right about his chin. Nor did he cut. Ali's toughest night 'twould be

[Dia bando]

Bowe for all his toughness has suffered the same fate as Ali had his brain scrambled by taking to many
head punches, Ali on points 15 rounds.

[brocktonblockbust]

Passing this along from @Bill Paxtom

July 9, 1970 ~arena somewhere near Cleveland, Ohio;

Riddick Bowe: "In Round 3, Ali hit me with a straight right hand that 'pissed' me ~off~…… I decided Bid Daddy had to start throwing some Bensonhurst Brooklyn Bombs."

Muhammad Ali: "Bowe is an ugly Seagull. The only way I lose to an ugly Seagull is if the Seagull comes in prepared and ready, and I don't really train good."

Bowe: "Well this Seagull is ready to ~tan~ your 'hide'".

[Spicoli]

Do we forget how easily Bowe was there to be hit Sure outside of Hide, Holyfield, Martin, Coetzer, Golota or a Lane he was rarely shook and/or rocked but ffs...Bowe often worked for a guy to fall into his wheel house. He wasn't beyond becoming flustered, out jabbed and out quicked.

[Master]

Do we forget how easily Bowe was there to be hit Sure outside of Hide, Holyfield, Martin, Coetzer, Golota or a Lane he was rarely shook and/or rocked but ffs...Bowe often worked for a guy to fall into his wheel house. He wasn't beyond becoming flustered, out jabbed and out quicked.

Hide hurt Bowe so Ali could too.

[brocktonblockbust]

I think Beau nails ali with a monster uppercut in a clinch

[THE THIRD MAN]

Ali V Bowe 1967 pretty much goes the same way as he handled the bigger Ernie Terrell! Ali by easy UD decision.

[vidgil]

ali ud

[johnsebastianmiran]

Riddick Bowe as I mentioned in another thread loses his concentration during matches He has speed but sacrifices it by being too close to his opponents whereas Ali slides out and back to ring center where he was superior. The one thing that bothered me about Bowe was that he lapses into a lazy phase during a fight and actually stays there for a while to catch a breather. Ali was razor sharp puncher in his youth and his eyes like those of Ray Leonard were wide open. Both men were alert but Bowe wa a part time worker in that department. No less than a UD for Ali.