Thread: Canelo vs Crawford getting closer..... (wink, wink)

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Master

Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.

Ready for slaughter is correct.

Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.

There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Master

Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.

Ready for slaughter is correct.

Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.

There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.

There is only one champion and that is Usyk, he already beat him, and that belt he has is not the real thing. He is a paper champion like Scull.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.

i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.

i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division

Like I said , there have been worse.

Btw I don’t know why I’m sticking up for Dubois. I don’t think he’s all that, but with what else is out there and I respect what he did to Joshua.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by TIC

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.

i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division

Like I said , there have been worse.

i think most would agree, the same could be said of william scull

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Btw I don’t know why I’m sticking up for Dubois. I don’t think he’s all that, but with what else is out there and I respect what he did to Joshua.

i respect that william scull fought vladimir Shishkin, it was a close fight. i had it a draw, could have gone either way

Point being that they sell these contests as unifications when really they should be title defences for the main man at the weight.

In the case of Usyk he has already beaten Dubois last year which they are conveniently trying to forget to sell that fight should he get through Parker.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Master

Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.

Ready for slaughter is correct.

Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.

There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.

Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.

Even some "hardcore fans" (quote marks on purpose) can suffer from a crass lack of objectivity. Calling this sham a "legitimate super fight" is being delusional at best. That's the problem with being a fanatic. You see everything through rose-tinted glasses, and are unable to call out garbage fights when they involve your object of devotion. So yeah... it needs to be called out.

And yes... we agree on Scull. Not sure I would dump on Dubois very much... but Scull is another story. A classic paperweight, holding onto a belt until he loses (probably by KO) to Canelo. Will obviously be dressed up as another legitimate championship fight. But we've already discussed why this isn't even close to being worthy.

https://www.tudn.com/boxeo/david-fai...varez-ya-basta



Classic.

This isn't me. This isn't Saddo'er Canelo hater, TitoFan. This is a respected fellow Mexican raking Ginger over the coals for his current and recent choice of opponents.

His own countrymen are just as fed up with the circus as the rest of us real boxing fans.

Priceless...