Valero - Mosquera Predictions

It's a shame this fight isn't on tv :-\

Who do you think wins and why?

I've only seen Mosquera twice, Nanthachai and Estrella.

He was very good in the Nanthachai fight. Popping in and out, countering Nanthachai and using a good jab. Though he had a very bad habit of occasionally bullrushing in with lunging hooks leaving himself VERY open. He got knocked down in the middle rounds after he knocked down Nanthachai in the same round by doing this. Very ugly. But for the most part he was a pretty good boxer-puncher that fight, fighting the way you would expect a mexican fighter to (except he is Colombian or Panamanian or something, can't remember).

As impressive as he was in the Nanthachai fight, he looked TERRIBLE in the Estrella fight. Charging forward trying to overpower Estrella, no boxing and his output numbers weren't at all impressive. He looked beatable, charging straight ahead with lunging hooks geting hit with everything and the kitchen sink. Mosquera is so easy to time coming inside when he isn't working behind a jab, it's almost not fair. That's not an exageration either.

So, needless to say Mosquera isn't exactly overwhelming. Meanwhile there is Valero. Competition is soft and he has had NO rounds under his belt but...the way he gets guys out of there is impressive. I mean, looking at him, you see a guy who looks off balance constantly, throwing wide shots, and throwing them often. He reminds me a little of a mix between Kassim Ouma and Antonio Margarito to be honest (wierd I know but those are the two fighters who come to mind everytime I see him.) He looks a little sloppy but he still has good timing, cuts the ring off nicely a good jab and he can throw his punches very straight when his opponent is on the ropes. If he gets you on the ropes you're in trouble. That's about all I've got from his actual fights so far.

But then there is that Erik Morales footage. THE GUY WAS OUTBOXING MORALES. I'm not going to read to deep into that since I have no idea when that was and what Morales' shape was but anyone who has seen the footage can agree, he looked damn impressive against an elite fighter. The thing is we haven't seen that type of boxing in his actual fights. Maybe because he didn't need it to win but either way, we haven't seen it and I think we are going to need to see a mixture of it in the Mosquera fight.

Now, as for how the two stack against each other. I would REALLY be surprised if Mosquera pulled this one out. I mean, he would have to be perfect, and that means not getting hit with the bombs he always does against Valero because Valero has power to get him out of there. I think this fight was a tailor made fight for Valero but I also think the kid is the next big thing if only he didn't have that ugly (and scary) blackspot on his MRI hanging over his head. I really do. You can hold me to that one.

So...your thoughts?

I've seen a couple of Valero's fights and I thought he looked F****** shat to be honest.

His fight last time out I think he was just going all out to beat One Round Hogan's all time record. Couldn't get the guy out in the first round but the ref seemed determined to give him a knockout and called the fight off way to early in the second when his opponent went down from a body punch.

Maybe he was just over reckless because he was chasing the record but he was so wide open it was like watching a skinny Butterbean fight.

Hopefully now his 1st ko streak is at an end he will settle down a little and box more.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

I've seen a couple of Valero's fights and I thought he looked F****** shat to be honest.

His fight last time out I think he was just going all out to beat One Round Hogan's all time record. Couldn't get the guy out in the first round but the ref seemed determined to give him a knockout and called the fight off way to early in the second when his opponent went down from a body punch.

Maybe he was just over reckless because he was chasing the record but he was so wide open it was like watching a skinny Butterbean fight.

Hopefully now his 1st ko streak is at an end he will settle down a little and box more.

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Yeah he was a litle reckless last figh. I mean, don't get me wrong, he is always agressive and smothering, but he was never so wide before and he usually does a good job of setting up his punches. Think the record got to him.

Well Doug Fischer over at Maxboxing thinks Valero is the real deal and I have to agree with him and I believe that he will prove it against Mosquera. I think Valero has just been koing those guys and looking sloppy to get the recognition,now he will show some more of his skills. I agree that it's a big big leap up in competition but I think Valero will win via a late tko or points.

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Originally Posted by The Game

Well Doug Fischer over at Maxboxing thinks Valero is the real deal and I have to agree with him and I believe that he will prove it against Mosquera. I think Valero has just been koing those guys and looking sloppy to get the recognition,now he will show some more of his skills. I agree that it's a big big leap up in competition but I think Valero will win via a late tko or points.

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hey the game maybe you can get footage of this fight....... :detective:

You know what,I'm DEFINITELY going to be on the case,I want to see this fight so bad(all this weekends fights look awesome though,my best weekend so far this yea) and I'm also in the process of looking for Mabuza Marquez 1 which I didn't see either. Hopefully someone somewhere will watch this fight and put it online!

that was a good fight man.....short but good... ;D i hope the rematch is great..cant wait..

Nanthachai was no push-over & that fight was really good. The knockdown in that fight was the 1st ever for Mosquera, so I think his chin is pretty solid. I would love to see Valero win especially by KO, but he hasn't really fought anyone. This will be a big step up in competiton. I see a decision for Valero in a possible classic.

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Originally Posted by The Game

You know what,I'm DEFINITELY going to be on the case,I want to see this fight so bad(all this weekends fights look awesome though,my best weekend so far this yea) and I'm also in the process of looking for Mabuza Marquez 1 which I didn't see either. Hopefully someone somewhere will watch this fight and put it online!

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I agree game we could be in for a treat this weekend!

CC back Bilbo bro!

So....wasn't to far off was I? Great fight for Valero. A WAR from the sounds of it. Read a breif description hoping for this one to pop up on the internet somewhere.

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Originally Posted by amat

So....wasn't to far off was I? Great fight for Valero. A WAR from the sounds of it. Read a breif description hoping for this one to pop up on the internet somewhere.

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Yeah bro, I was pretty close, "possible classic" ... 3 knock downs, toe to toe...

I was right too!!! Valero is going to become the man,mark my words!

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Originally Posted by The Game

I was right too!!! Valero is going to become the man,mark my words!

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You may be right, time will tell, but his defense is a little weak, but I do like the power!