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Titos father said in conference that he dont going fight in middleweight 160 pnd. , he just going stay at 168 or 170 pnd. . Apparently the weight of 160pnd. is so difficult for him , but if Tito fight in super middleweight with Pavlik , Taylor in my opinion i dont know if he will make it but is better for him to retire ,in that weight with Jones jr. he didnt looked good and not have enought power punch like before and too slow for me he going have problem in that weight.:(
Arum said in the newspaper if Tito wants to fight with Pavlik have to be 160 pnd by Championships
Thanbks for the info Macho.
I feel that you're right. Tito, just doesn't have the physical size for Super Middleweight.
Tito's father is as dumb as his sun. If only those two had a brain in their heads Tito might've still been the top fighter he was back in the day.
Moving up to Middleweight in the first place was a dumb move, though I forgive them for that one.
Retirering after their first loss was a dumb move.
Fighting Winky Wright was just plane stupid.
Returning to fight Jones Jr was beyond ridiculous.
Failing to see that Tito will not be a factor in any other weigth than 160 is foolish and dumb.
If Tito can't make 160 than he is done. And as a fan, it hurts to say.
Also, I think it is really stupid to decline this offer.
Arum has offered Trinidad a shot at the Middlweight Title. The REAL middleweight title. The one he never won. How could you decline that offer. Especially when you don't deserve it in the first place.
Trinidad is and will always be my favorite fighter. At his best he was near unbeatable. I loved watching him fight. But he and his dad have always been stupid. And I'm tyred of it.
:-\ Hey Rookie Fan , you are not the Only , in my opinion if he still playing like a dumb , he going damage all his Glory that he reached.......:(Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
I think Tito has reached the point where if he wins it is a bonus and if he looses it is no bad thing (except a KO loss early). If he wins now it only adds to his legacy. If Tito cannot make 160lb, no point killing himself and getting beat by Pavlik. No try and win at 168lb now that Galzaghe has left. Smart.
I can't see how Tito can't make 160. He looked like he was easily carrying around an extra 8lbs of arroz con pollo and ropa vieja. He just doesn't have the discipline to do it or the willingness to change a few training tactics to get his weight back down. If RJJ can make 170, Tito damn well can make 160 if he is dedicated enough. I think he just wants a little more money, but he's not willing to train hard enough.
Tito looked mighty fleshy in the RJJ fight. I call BS that he cannot make 160.
Is he just looking for straight paydays now without having to train?
For a former 147lb Welterweight Champion saying he can't make 160lb Middleweight just tells me his training program needs to be reviewed.
Is Tito just lazy or to reliant on the happy snacks in his diet!
He is not going to beat to many at 168lb, at 160 i give him a good chance of upsetting Pavlik!
(sigh)!!!
I'm a lifelong fan of Tito's, but I'd like to choke Trinidad Sr. I can see Tito not being able to make 147 anymore, and maybe not even 154. But not being able to make 160?!?!? WTF?!? You DON'T take your power up with you as you climb in weight (see: Tito-Jones Jr). Tito CAN make 160, and he shouldn't fight any higher than that. And I'll say it till I'm blue in the face.... while Tito-Pavlik might be a barnburner of a fight, the fight I'd REALLY like to see at 160 is Tito-Oscar. For ol' times sake.
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TBH and this is just my opinion...Trinidad really should not come back.....He had not fought in 2+ yrs before the Jones bout...He looked rusty as an old nail after rd 3.....By time he gets in a few tune ups so he is in shape will be another yr....Then by time a big name came up we are talking a 1 1/2 yrs...Then Trinidad will be almost 37.....Then he fights until he is beaten the first time then retires...Why bother?....
Hes got some good left in him but needs bouts to get his timing etc...Right now any of the champions beat him IMO
;) Well guys ,im a Titos fans too , but we have to recognize that he will not going make it , his first mistake was , retire in his first lose with Hopkins , now he is out of times; in 160 pnd he didnt won a fight except Yoppy and then 168 pnd he looks fat, heavy and decreased his power punch with Jones jr., what more can we expect of him , the MW and SMW is too much for him, we see that he have the height but dont have the stronghest like other fighters in that division, Do you think what will happen if he match up with Pantera Miranda in 168pnd? Cmon we know that he came back just for CASH , but he have to worry by his HEALTH.:cool:
Exactyly what I was thinking. He obviously can cut weight to 160. Does he really not now how to do that? Or is this just a bargaining ploy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RozzySean