WHAT A FIGHT!!!Is Manny P4P number1 now?.Let me know your thoughts!

Firstly,I think it was a tremendous fight. Really really awesome fight and congrats to both fighters.Second best foty imo.

I had JMM winning by a point.However,it was a close fight and could have gone either way. These guys could have 10 fights,each would be exciting and each would be close.

I'm not dropping JMM any places in my P4P lists because it was such a dam good and close fight.He gave Manny hell and vise versa. The reason I'm putting Manny P4P number 1 is he showed some improvements tonight to deal with a stylistic nightmare.He had excellent upper body movement,not as off balance as he used to be and blocked punches to compliment good,controlled agression.He's still primarily a 1 handed fighter but uses his right more than he used to. And he won.It was close but for him to beat JMM is a great achievement.

I told you guys it would go to points.;) Tremendous fight,boxing fans are the winners.Although I have a feeling we won't be seeing JMM again,I don't know why.:(

I want Manny to whoop that over rated journeyman David Diaz!

BTW,I've only seen the fight once so if I see a better quality version,I may change my scorecard.:):)

Ah Gamo mate after all your hooplah about people ranking Juan Diaz too highly you now seriously think Manny Pacquiao should be p4p number 1 based on a fight virtually everyone fought he lost, and who got battered around the ring at times?

Great fight, absolutely no question but Pacquiao isn't even in the same stratosphere in terms of skill and ability to Floyd Mayweather.

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Welll I made some points as to why I think he is a serious contender for P4P. Stop being such a jackass and try to at least use logic in your thinking. Manny just won the RING title in a close fight against a stylistic nightmare. A win over JMM in a fight which was 50-50 is more impressive than wins over Hatton and Oscar imo.

Seriously,you make yorself look so foolish sometimes.Try not to backtrack or voer up like you've done ith Margarito/smaller fighters etc etc ;)

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Welll I made some points as to why I think he is a serious contender for P4P. Stop being such a jackass and try to at least use logic in your thinking. Manny just won the RING title in a close fight against a stylistic nightmare. A win over JMM in a fight which was 50-50 is more impressive than wins over Hatton and Oscar imo.

Seriously,you make yorself look so foolish sometimes.Try not to backtrack or voer up like you've done ith Margarito/smaller fighters etc etc ;)

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He didn't win, he got the decision ;)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Welll I made some points as to why I think he is a serious contender for P4P. Stop being such a jackass and try to at least use logic in your thinking. Manny just won the RING title in a close fight against a stylistic nightmare. A win over JMM in a fight which was 50-50 is more impressive than wins over Hatton and Oscar imo.

Seriously,you make yorself look so foolish sometimes.Try not to backtrack or voer up like you've done ith Margarito/smaller fighters etc etc ;)

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Gamo man, you have no right to call anyone foolish if your apparently considering Pac at no.1. It's self explanatory, he's nowhere near the fighter Mayweather is p4p. I also have yet to find a post where I don't agree with Bilbo over you.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Welll I made some points as to why I think he is a serious contender for P4P. Stop being such a jackass and try to at least use logic in your thinking. Manny just won the RING title in a close fight against a stylistic nightmare. A win over JMM in a fight which was 50-50 is more impressive than wins over Hatton and Oscar imo.

Seriously,you make yorself look so foolish sometimes.Try not to backtrack or voer up like you've done ith Margarito/smaller fighters etc etc ;)

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Gamo man, you have no right to call anyone foolish if your apparently considering Pac at no.1. It's self explanatory, he's nowhere near the fighter Mayweather is p4p. I also have yet to find a post where I don't agree with Bilbo over you.

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Thanks buddy although apparently we disagree over whether Rains is an idiot or not :p

I personally like him but I'm a fair weather friend and if the rest reject him I'll pretend I never knew him :LOLATYOU:

If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

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If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

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Yeah that's pretty much how I see it.

Quite honestly I feel the best fighter in the division will prove to be Juan Guzman, I think he beats Marquez and Pacquaio based on this showing.

I'd be very interested to see Valero fight either. To me they both looked vulnurable and if he managed to land he could well put them both away.

I'm curious to see how Pac will look at 135, whether the weight will suit him better or worse.

Although on merit I of course keep Pacquaio at number 2, in my heart I think Joe Calzaghe is the second best fighter in the world, and will prove as much against Hopkins, who I believe even at his advanced age is number 3.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Welll I made some points as to why I think he is a serious contender for P4P. Stop being such a jackass and try to at least use logic in your thinking. Manny just won the RING title in a close fight against a stylistic nightmare. A win over JMM in a fight which was 50-50 is more impressive than wins over Hatton and Oscar imo.

Seriously,you make yorself look so foolish sometimes.Try not to backtrack or voer up like you've done ith Margarito/smaller fighters etc etc ;)

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Gamo man, you have no right to call anyone foolish if your apparently considering Pac at no.1. It's self explanatory, he's nowhere near the fighter Mayweather is p4p. I also have yet to find a post where I don't agree with Bilbo over you.

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Thanks buddy although apparently we disagree over whether Rains is an idiot or not :p

I personally like him but I'm a fair weather friend and if the rest reject him I'll pretend I never knew him :LOLATYOU:

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Then start pretending, because he's seriously an idiot. Ok, I'm sure you're friendly with him and maybe he is a decent guy, but when it comes to boxing(which is what this forum is for), he doesn't know dick all.

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Gamo man, you have no right to call anyone foolish if your apparently considering Pac at no.1. It's self explanatory, he's nowhere near the fighter Mayweather is p4p. I also have yet to find a post where I don't agree with Bilbo over you.

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Thanks buddy although apparently we disagree over whether Rains is an idiot or not :p

I personally like him but I'm a fair weather friend and if the rest reject him I'll pretend I never knew him :LOLATYOU:

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Then start pretending, because he's seriously an idiot. Ok, I'm sure you're friendly with him and maybe he is a decent guy, but when it comes to boxing(which is what this forum is for), he doesn't know dick all.

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lol, I know him from the Lets Get It On forum and of course through the excellent flans he bakes

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If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

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Yeah that's pretty much how I see it.

Quite honestly I feel the best fighter in the division will prove to be Juan Guzman, I think he beats Marquez and Pacquaio based on this showing.

I'd be very interested to see Valero fight either. To me they both looked vulnurable and if he managed to land he could well put them both away.

I'm curious to see how Pac will look at 135, whether the weight will suit him better or worse.

Although on merit I of course keep Pacquaio at number 2, in my heart I think Joe Calzaghe is the second best fighter in the world, and will prove as much against Hopkins, who I believe even at his advanced age is number 3.

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I think Floyd and Joe are the top 2 p4p fighters . I can make a case for Hopkins being up there too .

I also agree that Joan Guzman beats both Marquez and Pac but I can see Pac fighting David Diaz instead .

Great fight but my overall impression was that Marquez won. Maybe when I watch it again and score the fight I may have a different view. This was no robbery however. There were some close rounds.

I still do not think Pac is number one P4P. I would like to see him against Guzman and Valero. Two different challenges. Slick boxer and power puncher.

If he does not rematch Marquez or go for the aforementioned other 2 130lbs then it would be interesting to see him against Nate Campbell. I think he will struggle up at 135. He should stay at 130 for now and clean up (unified champ).

I've watched the fight closely and indeed it was very close that it warrants a rematch. My scorecard says it's 114-113 Pacquaio or Marquez winning.

The knockdown(which was so impressive), gave this fight to Pacquaio.

Pacquaio deserves to win this one.:cool:

great great fight but did pac deserve the decision........









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