ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
Pacquiao vs DL Hoya possible, Roach says
By Nick Giongco, The Manila Bulletin, Fri, 28 Mar 2008
LOS ANGELES — Oscar De La Hoya is reportedly serious in fighting Manny Pacquiao, the Filipino southpaw’s chief trainer disclosed on Wednesday at the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood. "I have been told that they (Golden Boy Promotions) are having a tough time getting (Floyd) Mayweather to sig Read Full Story >>> Manila Bulletin Online
ROACH: "My Dream For Manny Is Hatton at 140"
By Ron Borges, The Sweet Science, Thu, 27 Mar 2008
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Manny Pacquiao could have done better. In the end, that’s the bottom line for Freddie Roach. That’s the way the veteran trainer looked at his fighter’s razor-thin margin of vict Read Full Story >>> ROACH: "My Dream For Manny Is Hatton at 140" | TheSweetScience.com Boxing
I think Roach is not thinking right. He should seek a good neurologist after that terrifying car crash.
Re: ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
Hey Pacstraightleft i dont think that ODLH will be a possible opponent for Pac. , i agree that maybe Hatton but but Oscar i think never......;D
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
The biggest selling PPV of last year was between a Superfeather and a JMW.........
Just kidding, but its amazing what ppl will watch, and pay money too watch so u never know.
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Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
HA! I love sarcasm!
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Granted, Pac was at 145 when he fought Marquez. I could actually see Pac fighting Hatton, Mayweather, and hell, maybe even Cotto. Just because those guys aren't truly big guys and outside of Mayweather, they don't have long reaches. He would be at a severe disadvantage but since they are all around the same height and reach, it wouldn't really be all that different from Mosley jumping up from 135 to 147 to fight ODLH. But Pac fighting ODLH should NEVER happen. How in the fuck do you let a career super-middleweight fight a career super-featherweight? I don't give a damn how much money that fight makes. I understand fighters and networks wanting to make the most money with big "events" but the boxing community has to start taking itself more seriously. These matches are a slap in the face to paying fans. Quite honestly, the first Floyd-Oscar match was a pretty big mismatch on paper. ODLH is a MUCH bigger man than Floyd, the only reason that fight wasn't a big slap in the face was because Floyd has skills to compensate for his size.
Look, I understand that these boxers want to make the most money possible while they can (a la Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hatton, etc...). because stardom only lasts so long in boxing and because boxing is probably the worst sport to grow old in. When you retire, us fans will say "wow, that guy was a great fighter or wow he was a warrior, remember him? Remember that fight?" but in reality, life after boxing is hard for those guys. Most boxers are usually guys with little education and little other skill and can't really make money doing anything else. Plus, boxers take hits to the head that won't affect them now but will 20 years down the road. It's a risk these guys take for their paycheck. We bitch and complain about these guys when they use defense, work the ring, and may not be brawlers, but when we start hearing about these guys having brain damage and early Alzheimers when they are 50, what's the first thing that comes out of our mouths? "Wow, that sucks, that's tragic." None of us gave a fuck when we shelled out $50 to watch the bloodbath that probably contributed to it, we just wanted to get our rocks off on the blood lust and intense action. I'm guilty of this just like every other boxing fan. And that's why I don't go completely crazy when I hear about a boxer "ducking" another boxer or a boxer fighting a lesser "opponent." This is their only livelihood and they SHOULD do what (within reason) will make them the most money because when they are old and out of the sport none of us are gonna send money to their house because their ass already got paid.
With ALL that being said, I DO NOT condone fights like ODLH vs Pac. There's a limit and fights like that aren't about trying to make the most money, they are about raping the sport of it's integrity.
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Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? If Pac faced ODLH, I can assure he would be making amounts of money he never done before. Whoever gets in the ring with ODLH or Floyd will be making the biggest purse in their career.
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Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
For ODH v Pac, see ODH v Gatti. He dwarfs him. As has been alluded to above, it's more a freakshow than a bona fide fight.
Pac v Hatton is a touch more realistic but in order for the match up to have any credibility, I'd need to see Pac hanging at 140lb first. Sadly, that's highly unlikely given Mannys marquee status and the dearth of 'names' at light welter...
Still, as PBF says 'if it makes money, it makes sense'........
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hatton is believeable but a de la hoya match will not happen. he is way too big for pac.
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
I'd prefer Junior Witter vs. a Bear as the undercard.
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Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
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For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
lol he does have at least one blowout every month so you are probably right.
His postings are a constant amusement to me, he goes from light hearted and jovial to hellfire and damanation and then back again in the space of a couple postings. He does it all the time, its hilarious :D
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