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Guzman to vacate and move up to lightweight because of all the bullshit about changing dates.. according to another site (sceneboxing).
I said all along this fight wouldn't happen. Arthur's mob very rarely put their men in fights without being favourite let alone where they're gonna get a certain defeat.
Can't wait to see who Arthur will be matched with next ;D
Smart move Arthur would of been massacred, Guzman is very good fighter he reminds me little bit of Mayweather with the shoulder roll. I think Guzman can do very well against the top Lightweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It's a waste of time anyways. There is no reason Joan Guzman should have to try so hard to get a fight with...Alex Arthur?
I think Joan Guzman is the best fighter at 129 and maybe the most talented fighter in the world outside of Mayweather. But he's not a big guy even though he has to cut a ton of weight each fight so I wonder how he'll do at lightweight. Most underrated fighter in the game by far no convincing me otherwise I hope he gets his shot.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
So you saying arthurs promotion team purposely made this fight under the pretence that it would be called off over visa issues???
Isnt he now interim?? if so i suspect the belt will either be handed to him or he`ll be matched up with martinez.
Guzman may have gotten a fight with Campbell/Casa/Juan so I'm not overly disappointed.
But screw Arthur, he was cowardly.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
How the hell is the guy cowardly??
he agreed to fight one of the hardest punchers in the division!!
Well, Guzman isn't actually regarded as a puncher at all at the weight. He's supremely skilled, slick and fast, but not a puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
How the hell is the guy cowardly??
he agreed to fight one of the hardest punchers in the division!!
He's cowardly, because ever since the fight has been made Arthur has been shifting opinions, changing dates and procrastinating in relation to the fight.
It not only seemed that he fell into the fight by accident by mentioning Guzmans name and the negotiations going so quickly, it also seemed he did everything he could during negotiations to make the fight a difficult deal and when Guzman still agreed to the terms Arthur still shook his way out of it.
He put a lot of energy into shaking this fight off.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonnyWell, Guzman isn't actually regarded as a puncher at all at the weight. He's supremely skilled, slick and fast, but not a puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
How the hell is the guy cowardly??
he agreed to fight one of the hardest punchers in the division!!
He's cowardly, because ever since the fight has been made Arthur has been shifting opinions, changing dates and procrastinating in relation to the fight.
It not only seemed that he fell into the fight by accident by mentioning Guzmans name and the negotiations going so quickly, it also seemed he did everything he could during negotiations to make the fight a difficult deal and when Guzman still agreed to the terms Arthur still shook his way out of it.
He put a lot of energy into shaking this fight off.
what do you think the chances are of WBO electing Mitchell to fight instead of a mandatory opponent??
I for one feel kev can take alex!!
To be honest Arthur hasn't really stepped up much since he got battered by Michael Gomez. I think that fight shook his confidence a lot.
Arthur had NO chance. His people don't do "no chance" fights unless it's the opponent that has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
So you saying arthurs promotion team purposely made this fight under the pretence that it would be called off over visa issues???
Isnt he now interim?? if so i suspect the belt will either be handed to him or he`ll be matched up with martinez.
Guzman has a history of fights being cancelled and weight problems. It's not really surprising he decided to give Arthur, traveling to Scotland, the WBO and super-featherweight the elbow after problems with the original date.
And it's hardly surprising if a few smart guys knew this was likely ;)
Oh, you hit a sweet one there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyWell, Guzman isn't actually regarded as a puncher at all at the weight. He's supremely skilled, slick and fast, but not a puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
He's cowardly, because ever since the fight has been made Arthur has been shifting opinions, changing dates and procrastinating in relation to the fight.
It not only seemed that he fell into the fight by accident by mentioning Guzmans name and the negotiations going so quickly, it also seemed he did everything he could during negotiations to make the fight a difficult deal and when Guzman still agreed to the terms Arthur still shook his way out of it.
He put a lot of energy into shaking this fight off.
what do you think the chances are of WBO electing Mitchell to fight instead of a mandatory opponent??
I for one feel kev can take alex!!
You can never write off Mitchell can you, you think he's taking a pasting and he comes back so strong.
I think if he boxes for 12 like he did in the first 4 and final 2 with Carl, he beats Arthur.
Correct and Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterArthur had NO chance. His people don't do "no chance" fights unless it's the opponent that has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
So you saying arthurs promotion team purposely made this fight under the pretence that it would be called off over visa issues???
Isnt he now interim?? if so i suspect the belt will either be handed to him or he`ll be matched up with martinez.
Guzman has a history of fights being cancelled and weight problems. It's not really surprising he decidied to give Arthur, traveling to Scotland, the WBO and superfeather the elbow after problems with the original date.
And it's hardly surprising if a few smart guys knew this was likely ;)
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Originally Posted by hitmandonnyOh, you hit a sweet one there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
what do you think the chances are of WBO electing Mitchell to fight instead of a mandatory opponent??
I for one feel kev can take alex!!
You can never write off Mitchell can you, you think he's taking a pasting and he comes back so strong.
I think if he boxes for 12 like he did in the first 4 and final 2 with Carl, he beats Arthur.
bar pac-marquez II that was undoubtedly my 2nd favourite fight of 2008 even more respect to the two considering it was an undercard contest.
Everyone was just expecting johannson to eventually lay down but he just kept coming and almost stopped mitchell in the 6th which would not of been in the plan.
kev strikes me as the kind of guy that would be willing to walk through anything in order to get his shot off.
Dont think he is world champion material just yet.. perhaps a fight with alex arthur could be just what he needs!!
Wasnt it like
That was a crazy fight. I was so impressed with Mitch early, I thought he boxed very tidy and he was hurting Johansson.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyOh, you hit a sweet one there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
You can never write off Mitchell can you, you think he's taking a pasting and he comes back so strong.
I think if he boxes for 12 like he did in the first 4 and final 2 with Carl, he beats Arthur.
bar pac-marquez II that was undoubtedly my 2nd favourite fight of 2008 even more respect to the two considering it was an undercard contest.
Everyone was just expecting johannson to eventually lay down but he just kept coming and almost stopped mitchell in the 6th which would not of been in the plan.
kev strikes me as the kind of guy that would be willing to walk through anything in order to get his shot off.
Dont think he is world champion material just yet.. perhaps a fight with alex arthur could be just what he needs!!
Wasnt it like
But then he seemed to slip or fatigue and Johansson capitalised, it appeared as if Mitchell was gone and I questioned whether he would be taken.
Then out he comes boxing superbly the next round.
Hugely underrated fight that stole the show that night.
Bit harsh to call Arthur a coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyWell, Guzman isn't actually regarded as a puncher at all at the weight. He's supremely skilled, slick and fast, but not a puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
How the hell is the guy cowardly??
he agreed to fight one of the hardest punchers in the division!!
He's cowardly, because ever since the fight has been made Arthur has been shifting opinions, changing dates and procrastinating in relation to the fight.
It not only seemed that he fell into the fight by accident by mentioning Guzmans name and the negotiations going so quickly, it also seemed he did everything he could during negotiations to make the fight a difficult deal and when Guzman still agreed to the terms Arthur still shook his way out of it.
He put a lot of energy into shaking this fight off.
He is, after all, a pro boxer that gets punched for a living ;)