Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
Ive gone for Pavlik because his punches are just to hard and often.Lockett after 2 an a half rounds looked like he had done more than 12 rounds.I think he stops Calzaghe
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
Pavlik by stoppage win round about the 9th or 10th round.
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TitoFan
Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
Will calzaghe take this fight? This would be the biggest and most dangerous fight of his career.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
maybe it was just an abberation, but Joe looked to easy to hit by Bhop. I know Kelly isn't the technical master that Bernard is but I believe that constant pressure and patience will eventually afford Kelly the chance to connect and that will be all she wrote.
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This has been an ongoing debate for quite some time now. It's only a matter of time before the Calzaghe fans see this and talk their boy up.
Pavlik wins this one. Joe hasn't seen anyone like him yet.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
I said Calzaghe by points before the Lockett fight and I'm definitely not going to let that mismatch influence my thoughts on any fight.
It would be a rough fight for Joe (especially if he's slowed down more) but I assume he'd do enough to win a pretty close decision. He'll get hit some but he can probably take it as long as he's not getting raked consistently every round. Pavlik's a big puncher but against the top guys its taken an accumulation of punches to eventually get the stoppage.
I may change my mind at some point. For now I'll stick with Calzaghe even though I'd be rooting for Pavlik.
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I honesty think it would be a bloodbath. And send Joe packing.
I don't think he or Enzo wants this fight. I do though.
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OumaFan
I said Calzaghe by points before the Lockett fight and I'm definitely not going to let that mismatch influence my thoughts on any fight.
It would be a rough fight for Joe (especially if he's slowed down more) but I assume he'd do enough to win a pretty close decision. He'll get hit some but he can probably take it as long as he's not getting raked consistently every round. Pavlik's a big puncher but against the top guys its taken an accumulation of punches to eventually get the stoppage.
I may change my mind at some point. For now I'll stick with Calzaghe even though I'd be rooting for Pavlik.
I just dont see Calzaghe amiking it to the end in one piece. He will be busted badly. Pavlik bats punches and seems like a more complete fighter after every fight. His defense has improved drastically since Miranda. He seems stronger and more accurate. His foot work is alot better and never seems off balance. He is complete. He posses a bigger threat than Jones and any one at 168. Or maybee any one at 175 besides Tarver. He can do it. I know he can and in the back of all of the the minds of the oppisition has the same feeling too. Make us proud as always Pavlik.
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Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
People dont take into account Pavlik is not only the biggest puncher Calzaghe will have met , hes 6'2 -6'3 , and Calzaghe does get hit alot with right hands , Hopkins - Mitchell - Reid , i dont want Pavlik to leave the MW division yet , but i think he can KO Joe .
Pavlik may not be a master boxer but he is so impressive , hes like a tank.
His jab is also excellent.
Pavlik KO 8
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southakron314
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TitoFan
Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
IF HE DOES LOOK LIKE THIS AFTER A CALZAGHE FIGHT HE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE HIS NICKNAME FROM GHOST.;D
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jangeorg
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southakron314
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
IF HE DOES LOOK LIKE THIS AFTER A CALZAGHE FIGHT HE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE HIS NICKNAME FROM GHOST.;D
Good one ;D;D;D
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