Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????

[jangeorg]

Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

[Dark Lord Al]

Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

IF HE DOES LOOK LIKE THIS AFTER A CALZAGHE FIGHT HE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE HIS NICKNAME FROM GHOST.

[jangeorg]

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

IF HE DOES LOOK LIKE THIS AFTER A CALZAGHE FIGHT HE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE HIS NICKNAME FROM GHOST.

Good one

Some rep to you

[HattonTheHammer]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

[Pugilistic]

Calzaghe would have to use his speed and movement to win a decision. Pavlik will be tough for Calzaghe as he has a great workrate like Joe, strong and a monster right hand and everyone knows joe has a weakness in blocking that shot. I can see Calzaghe going down once or twice if they fought.

[littlebif]

Every big fight Joe is in people back against him say he will get ko'ed and so on.Ok Pavlik is a very big puncher but he can be outboxed like we saw in the second fight with Taylor.Taylor managed to go 12 rounds with Pavlik he got hurt but he got through to the end and Calzaghe has a granite chin at 168lb. I still have faith in Joe to win a UD.

[yvonne]

LETS MAKE THIS FIGHT HAPPEN PLEASE!IT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME NO DOUGHT!Like "Youngblood" mentioned earlier "It would be a bloodbath"i think too!Make it Calzaghes lasting RETIRING fight and the fight would be a cracker!!!I mean Calzaghe will find it really tought with just by the danger of Pavliks reputation,but Calzaghe will want to prove again how good he is and put on a great display to end his career.Of course Pavliks hard as foook and will be there to dismantle Calzaghes undefeated record before the Welsh man retires.....Thats what's going to make this fight soo good.Mouth wateringCome on promoters make his fight happen.It would be one of if not The Best fight of the year.....it has the ingrediants!!!!

[southakron314]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

You know that how. Lockett could not make the post fight because he was in the hospital complianing of vision loss. Find me something to back thaqt up. I say Pavlik hits harder than Kessler.

[southakron314]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.

[C-Lo]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

[CFH]

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad .

The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.

[Fenster]

JC by unanimous decision

At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.

I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.

Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.

THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...

This is ridiculous. You guys can't honestly believe their records are comparable?

Pavlik's THREE best wins are Taylor - middleweight champ. Miranda - failed "world" title challenger and ?? ... There isn't even a 3rd

Calzaghe's best wins... (in no particular order)

1. Hopkins - Middleweight "great," Lightheavy champ
2. Eubank - Top 5 best ever supermiddle
3. Kessler - WBC/WBA UNBEATEN champ
4. Lacy - IBF UNBEATEN champ
5. Reid - WBC champ
6. Brewer - IBF champ
7. Mitchell - WBA champ
8. Woodhall - WBC champ

Calzaghe's win over Omar Sheika is on a par with Pavlik's 2nd best ever win.

Come on boys, get real

[Mar]

It's always easy to be swayed by the figter we just recently seen and forget the big picture but i still see pavlik as too young and strong right now. Joe would have to seriously hurt pavlik to keep him from coming forward and i don't see that happening. I think a couple of good shots from pavlik and calzaghe will probably try to stay away most of the fight.

[southakron314]

Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

[HattonTheHammer]

Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.

If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death

Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight

You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.

lol

sorry to say it mate but it seems your the one who is coming across pretty naive in all this.

JC has been beating guys up for 15 odd years now and hasnt once come across an opponent who had more to offer than calzaghe.

As ive already mentioned before pavlik will find his power at 168 isnt half of what he has at middleweight and if he does decide to fight joe in straight lines there will only ever be one outcome.

Kelly definetely has the ability to beat joe. I make no qualms about that.

But if they do ever meet pavlik would start the fight as the underdog and i would fully expect JC to be too busy and wily for anything to happen other than a resounding calzaghe points win!!