Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his nephew..

Roger Mayweather is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his nephew beat them :rofmaoal:


Boxingtalk recently caught up with trainer Roger Mayweather to discuss his nephew/charge, former pound for pound boss Floyd Mayweather Jr., and his most recent retirement. On the Teddy Atlas theory that Floyd Jr. did not want his father training someone to face him and have his family's dirty laundry aired over media channels: Teddy Atlas don't know shit. He don't know shit about boxing any damn way. He can't train nobody. So what he says don't mean shit. It has nothing to do with that. My nephew retired because he did what no other fighter in history has done, he won six world titles at five weight classes and retired undefeated.

Let me tell you something, Floyd didn't start no motherfucking boxing at ten or twelve, Floyd been boxing since he was one. He's been around boxing his entire life. His legacy is already made.

On whether big Floyd would have made a difference in Oscar De La Hoya's corner against little Floyd?

He struggled with Stevie Forbes what the fuck is going to do against Floyd? I use to train both of them (Floyd Mayweather and Stevie Forbes), they were a year apart, at the same time.
Let me tell you something, De La Hoya couldn't beat my nephew if he brung Angelo Dundee, no training ass Manny Steward and Floyd.

On Floyd threatening to fire him if he trained Steve Forbes for his match against Oscar De La Hoya before their upcoming September rematch, and missing out on a big check:
No, it's not like that. My thing was, I wasn't mad; it was how he said it. But he didn't say it to me. But he told me he didn't want me to train Stevie Forbes because of the fight coming up. Bottom line, Stevie Forbes didn't win and Floyd ain't going to fight him anyways, so it makes no fucking difference.

On Floyd's legacy:

BT: You think he's leaving some unfinished business?

RM: Why?

BT Some of the guys he won the championships from, say Arturo Gatti?

RM: Yeah, Gatti was the champ so he kicked his ass. Yeah.

BT: And at 147?

RM: Won it twice, from Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. And then he whupped motherfucking De La Hoya's ass.

BT: What about Miguel Cotto?

RM: Floyd doesn't have unfinished business with Cotto. Floyd has already done what no fighter in history has ever done. They already done it, but they lost. Thomas Hearns did it, but he already lost. ‘Sugar' Ray Robinson did it, but he already lost.

BT: So being undefeated is an important part of it?

RM: Listen, when they talk about fighters, who is the only guy they bring up because he was the only champ to retire undefeated?

BT: Rocky Marciano?

RM: And he beat a bunch of old motherfuckers, right.

BT: A similar argument could be made of Floyd?

RM: No, Floyd fought the guys in their prime. :spit: :rofmaoal:

Floyd in history is always going to be questioned; oh, he could have fought this guy or that guy. Even if he comes back, that's how it will always go.
On whether Floyd will stay retired or be lured back:

RM: Most fighters come back for one reason - money - we'll he already got money.

BT: You don't think that money might dry up?

RM: Seventy million!

BT: (Mike) Tyson and (Evander) Holyfield went through more than that.

RM: Floyd don't have twenty kids. And remember this; Tyson's money you can say was taken from him. It wasn't him spending all that money. If a motherfucker comes back and he's got seventy million dollars, there's something wrong with him any motherfucking way. He don't have no dope problems. He don't have no coke problems. He don't have no drinking problems. He has a couple of kids. If a man comes back from that, he got other problems.

Good read Danny , i likes when Mayweathers feel pressure like that....
That makes me laugh................they were in their Prime......:rolleyes:

LOL, what a joke.

A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.

ODLH WAS in his prime, but for PPV buys not skill.

Whack Job...

I can't wait til Mayweather comes out of retirement cuz I wasnt to see Roger shopping for half the 24/7 shows again...;D

floyd fought plenty of guys in their prime, roger is just dumb for mentioning the three guys that he did..

any fighter can be criticized of who they fight, and we've heard every excuse, from he was past it, he had a broken hand, he had the flu, his dog died during training camp.. Floyd has a great resume, and in my opinion the only guy left that i want to see him fight, is Cotto.. but can i say that floyd is less of a great fighter because he didn't fight Cotto? No i can't, he's an incredible fighter, but i would just like to see this fight happen to silence all the critics.. as many others would..

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Originally Posted by wesrman

LOL, what a joke.

A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.

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As for Hearns and Leonard they would have slaughtered him and SRR would have decimated him.;D

Mayweather and De La Hoya would've always given each other problems. The higher in weight, the better the chances for De La Hoya.

Mayweather really didn't have much business fighting @ 154, like DLH @ middleweight.

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Originally Posted by wesrman

LOL, what a joke.

A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.

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No the real joke is you thinking ODLH would kill Mayweather, let me tell you no boxer in history would kill/destroy Mayweather. Is there fighters that can beat him ?? yes but destroy him ?? nope never. And lets remember the Mayweather at Super Featherweight was much faster and had genuine punching power at that weight. And its not like ODLH was "really past his prime" some of his best performances were at Jr Middleweight aka Mosley 2 aka Vargas, his fights against Sturm, Hopkins, don't count they were at a weight class ODLH was clearly uncomfortable at, ODLH had a 1 stone advantage and still was out boxed by Mayweather.

If a motherf***er comes back and he's got seventy million dollars, there's something wrong with him any motherf***ing way. He don't have no dope problems. He don't have no coke problems. He don't have no drinking problems. He has a couple of kids. If a man comes back from that, he got other problems.

:lol:

Amongst all the waffle that is some pretty sound reasoning ;)

"On the Teddy Atlas theory that Floyd Jr. did not want his father training someone to face him and have his family's dirty laundry aired over media channels: Teddy Atlas don't know shit. He don't know shit about boxing any damn way. He can't train nobody. So what he says don't mean shit. It has nothing to do with that."

I'd pay $59.99 to see Teddy Atlas and Roger Mayweather fight...

It's actually irrelevant as you could argue that Floyd beats a prime Gatti and Baldomir anyway.

The question is, as is alluded to above, would he have beat a prime DLH?

prime ODLH vs prime mayweather would be a joy to watch. :cool:

I dont think mayweather needs to fight cotto to secure his legacy, it may make him move up on the list alot but he doesn't need it. even IF he beat cotto by that time there would be another deserving fighter that everyone will be saying floyd needs to fight to secure his legacy...it will never end.

Baldomir may have been near his prime?? I mean he is just a plodding, slow ass fighter so i don't think his prime that relevant.

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Originally Posted by steelie

It's actually irrelevant as you could argue that Floyd beats a prime Gatti and Baldomir anyway.

The question is, as is alluded to above, would he have beat a prime DLH?

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There is no doubt in my mind that Floyd would beat prime Gatti and prime Baldomir, I don't know about a Prime ODLH though. But, for Roger to make such bold faced lies, claiming these guys were in their prime, makes Floyd look even worse.

Ducking Cotto and Margarito was a shame and will be the stain on PBF's would be legacy as the so called greatest fighter ever.