Best American fighters P4P active right now...

I'm putting my list together right now but I'm interested to see who the best American fighters are in people's minds right now... Just looking for a top 10.

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This was kinda tough...

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Oscar Delahoya
5. Nate Cambell
6. Paulie Malignaggi
7. Shane Mosley
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Juan Diaz
10. Paul Williams
11. Chad Dawson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Andre Berto

Ok, I did 13 cuz I wanted Andre Berto on there ;)

1. POWDERPUFF MALIGNAGGI
2. SERGIO MORA
3. JEFF LACY
4. PETER MANFREDO Jr
5. CORY SPINKS
6. ZAB JUDAH
7. FISHNETS DE LA HOYA
8. SHANE MOSLEY
9. PAUL WILLIAMS
10. ANTONIO TARVER

Definitive.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

1. POWDERPUFF MALIGNAGGI
2. SERGIO MORA
3. JEFF LACY
4. PETER MANFREDO Jr
5. CORY SPINKS
6. ZAB JUDAH
7. FISHNETS DE LA HOYA
8. SHANE MOSLEY
9. PAUL WILLIAMS
10. ANTONIO TARVER

Definitive.

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Hell has officially frozen over.....;D

POB I think you did a list so that you could make an argument for Pavlik to be at the top of it.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

POB I think you did a list so that you could make an argument for Pavlik to be at the top of it.

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LOL, ya got me;D

In all seriousness, Powderpuff Malignaggi is a SHOCKING omission from your list, POB.

Don't you know this man got his face crushed by Cotto. Got his face caved in by Cotto. Got his face mashed by Cotto.

Grounds to qualify a great fighter if ever there was one. Fact.

Actually the lists just highlight that American boxing is at a low point in my opinion.

How's that... I put malignaggi on the list...

Well you have a 50 year old B-Hop way up there who just lost a fight and didn't look impressive against Winky (who came up big time in weight).

Winky: I am a huge Winky fan, but he has lost a few lately and not looked very sharp: yet he still has a good argument at the top of the list.

De La Hoya: When is the last time he won a fight? In fact when is the last time he seriously engaged in a fight and looked sharp?

Nate Campbell: Pretty damn inconsistent for a P4P fighter.

Mialignaggi: Got a royal beat down by Cotto, looked like shit in his last fight. Also I think he is very over-rated. Hatton is taking an easy fight here.

Shane Mosely: He should be higher on your list. Looked okay against Louis and I thought he represented himself very well against Cotto. Getting old though.

Taylor: Lost last two fights to Pavlik. Don't know how he will bounce back. Also got away with a Draw against Wright, and a very controversial B-Hop decision.

Juan Diaz: I was never sold on this kid. And he punches like Paulie.

Chad Dawson: Just lost to Glen Johnson. Glen Johnson is Jamiacan but if he wasn't he should be on your list since you are partial to these old fucking dinosaur fighters.

Paul Williams: Great win over Marg and revenged his loss against Carlos. Should be higher.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Pavlik belongs at #1
Well you have a 50 year old B-Hop way up there who just lost a fight and didn't look impressive against Winky (who came up big time in weight).
When's the last time you saw B-Hop look "good"? Against Tito? He's better at making boxers look bad then himself look good.
Winky: I am a huge Winky fan, but he has lost a few lately and not looked very sharp: yet he still has a good argument at the top of the list.
He wasn't looking sharp cuz he moved up like 10 to 15 pounds(depending on where you think he should be fighting)
De La Hoya: When is the last time he won a fight? In fact when is the last time he seriously engaged in a fight and looked sharp?
I am not a Delahoya fan nor have I ever claimed to be. He IMO drew with the best P4P fighter at the time... That's why he's here.
Nate Campbell: Pretty damn inconsistent for a P4P fighter.
No argument here... But if we're doing P4P based on where he is RIGHT NOW... He just beat Juan Diaz in convincing fashion. Inconsistency has plagued him his whole career, though... Only time will tell.(and he doesn't have alot left)
Mialignaggi: Got a royal beat down by Cotto, looked like shit in his last fight. Also I think he is very over-rated. Hatton is taking an easy fight here.
Also no argument with this Paulie... He's tough to place on this list.
Shane Mosely: He should be higher on your list. Looked okay against Louis and I thought he represented himself very well against Cotto. Getting old though.
Had it been 4 or 5 years ago he would be higher.
Taylor: Lost last two fights to Pavlik. Don't know how he will bounce back. Also got away with a Draw against Wright, and a very controversial B-Hop decision.
Looking at losses and draws does not give a good account of many good fighters... He lost against B-Hop the first time but beat him the second... He drew against one of the best and highly regarded Jr mid/middleweights of our time... Almost closed the show on the #1 spot just couldn't finish and fought him to an extremely close decision... He belongs here.
Juan Diaz: I was never sold on this kid. And he punches like Paulie.
He will outwork 99.99% of the fighters in the div.... He doesn't work off of punching power...
Chad Dawson: Just lost to Glen Johnson. Glen Johnson is Jamiacan but if he wasn't he should be on your list since you are partial to these old fucking dinosaur fighters.
And he would be had be been an American;D
Paul Williams: Great win over Marg and revenged his loss against Carlos. Should be higher.

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I can't disagree that Williams probably should be higher... I'll give it some thought:cool:

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

I'm putting my list together right now but I'm interested to see who the best American fighters are in people's minds right now... Just looking for a top 10.

:cool:

This was kinda tough...

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Oscar Delahoya
5. Nate Cambell
6. Paulie Malignaggi
7. Shane Mosley
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Juan Diaz
10. Paul Williams
11. Chad Dawson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Andre Berto

Ok, I did 13 cuz I wanted Andre Berto on there ;)

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It's certainly a transition stage in US boxing (UK as well). There's no stand out on the list but Pavlik and Williams are on the way up IMO.

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

How's that... I put malignaggi on the list...

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Nooooo ;D

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

How's that... I put malignaggi on the list...

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Nooooo ;D

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Had to... ;D Sadly, he deserves it

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Originally Posted by Bomp

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

I'm putting my list together right now but I'm interested to see who the best American fighters are in people's minds right now... Just looking for a top 10.

:cool:

This was kinda tough...

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Oscar Delahoya
5. Nate Cambell
6. Paulie Malignaggi
7. Shane Mosley
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Juan Diaz
10. Paul Williams
11. Chad Dawson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Andre Berto

Ok, I did 13 cuz I wanted Andre Berto on there ;)

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It's certainly a transition stage in US boxing (UK as well). There's no stand out on the list but Pavlik and Williams are on the way up IMO.

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Pavlik is definitly the centerpiece of American boxing today;)

I'll give it a shot... Damn! this was hard to do and quite sad if I'm honest. :-\

1. Pavs
2. Hopkins
3. ODLH
4. Winky
5. Nate
6. BCD
7. SSM
8. Williams
9. Paulie
10. Baby Bull
11. Luevano
12. Guerrero
13. JT
14. Tarver
15. Cunningham

Sorry but because Bertos fought well against weak opposition and has captured a belt that DOES NOT give him P4P on my list. I would say he's somewhere on there from 16-20.