Best American fighters P4P active right now...

[Bomp]

I'm putting my list together right now but I'm interested to see who the best American fighters are in people's minds right now... Just looking for a top 10.



This was kinda tough...

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Oscar Delahoya
5. Nate Cambell
6. Paulie Malignaggi
7. Shane Mosley
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Juan Diaz
10. Paul Williams
11. Chad Dawson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Andre Berto

Ok, I did 13 cuz I wanted Andre Berto on there

It's certainly a transition stage in US boxing (UK as well). There's no stand out on the list but Pavlik and Williams are on the way up IMO.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm putting my list together right now but I'm interested to see who the best American fighters are in people's minds right now... Just looking for a top 10.



This was kinda tough...

1. Kelly Pavlik
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Oscar Delahoya
5. Nate Cambell
6. Paulie Malignaggi
7. Shane Mosley
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Juan Diaz
10. Paul Williams
11. Chad Dawson
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Andre Berto

Ok, I did 13 cuz I wanted Andre Berto on there

It's certainly a transition stage in US boxing (UK as well). There's no stand out on the list but Pavlik and Williams are on the way up IMO.

Pavlik is definitly the centerpiece of American boxing today

[CutMeMick]

I'll give it a shot... Damn! this was hard to do and quite sad if I'm honest.

1. Pavs
2. Hopkins
3. ODLH
4. Winky
5. Nate
6. BCD
7. SSM
8. Williams
9. Paulie
10. Baby Bull
11. Luevano
12. Guerrero
13. JT
14. Tarver
15. Cunningham

Sorry but because Bertos fought well against weak opposition and has captured a belt that DOES NOT give him P4P on my list. I would say he's somewhere on there from 16-20.

[SweetPea]

Here's an interesting question.... when's the last time that the highest rated American fighter ranked so low on the PFP list?

Whether you think Pavlik is #1 or BHop or Winky or whoever, I think we'd all agree that the top American fighter is no higher than about #5 PFP. When's the last time that no American fighter was in the Top 2 or 3? Going back in time, you've got Mayweather, Jones, and Whitaker... one of those 3 was in the top 2-3 for the past 20 years or so. Before that, Tyson, Lenoard, Hagler, etc.

[Chino]

American fighters, you mean, residents of the USA but not necessarily of race, right?

Oh boy, I hope I didn't open Pandora's Box.

[CutMeMick]

American fighters, you mean, residents of the USA but not necessarily of race, right?

Oh boy, I hope I didn't open Pandora's Box.

Come on Chino we've done that before...

American meaning BORN in the US and being of American nationality.
Citizenship.

[Chino]

American fighters, you mean, residents of the USA but not necessarily of race, right?

Oh boy, I hope I didn't open Pandora's Box.

Come on Chino we've done that before...

American meaning BORN in the US and being of American nationality.
Citizenship.

CutMeMick,
As for CITIZENSHIP, ok, I'll agree other than that, well, we've talked about it before .

[SweetPea]

American fighters, you mean, residents of the USA but not necessarily of race, right?

How else would I have meant it?

It was a simple, straightforward question. Don't make more of it than that.

[eagle]

Where is Roy Jones?
He is still better than some on the list.

[CFH]

American fighters, you mean, residents of the USA but not necessarily of race, right?

Oh boy, I hope I didn't open Pandora's Box.

Are you implying that "American" now qualifies as a race? Why would you try to stir up shit and make this thread something which it is clearly not? Like Sweetpea said, it's as straightforward as it could possibly be.

I don't understand how Juan Diaz could be higher than Jermaine Taylor. Taylor has only lost to Pavlik, the consensus #1 American - both fights were competitive - while beating Hopkins (at least once), drawing with Wright, and fighting a much higher level of competition than Diaz. Admittedly Taylor did not look great in some of his defenses, but drawing with Wright or looking poor against Spinks is still better than anything Diaz has done. I don't think Diaz is a bad fighter or anything, in fact I think he's a very good fighter, but in terms of skill and competition JT is a better one. Diaz is more exciting, but that's it IMO.

[CutMeMick]

Here's an interesting question.... when's the last time that the highest rated American fighter ranked so low on the PFP list?

Whether you think Pavlik is #1 or BHop or Winky or whoever, I think we'd all agree that the top American fighter is no higher than about #5 PFP. When's the last time that no American fighter was in the Top 2 or 3? Going back in time, you've got Mayweather, Jones, and Whitaker... one of those 3 was in the top 2-3 for the past 20 years or so. Before that, Tyson, Lenoard, Hagler, etc.

You bring up an excellent point.

Number 1 P4P through the yrs: Tyson, JCC, Pernell, RJJ, ODLH, SSM, Hopkins, PBF, Pac