Did the Calzaghe fight ruin Jeff Lacy?

Looking at Jeff pre Calzaghe yes he was crude but he let his punches flow had decent headmovement and was bullish inside.

Post Calzaghe he pushes his shots they dont flow anymore he also does not move his head.

At 29yo Lacy imo was ruined mentally and physically.

Absolutley, when that fight finished so did Lacy.
He lost ever bit of mental strength and fortitude that he had built.

He was actually a gutsy fighter, he kept coming after Calzaghe, he never stopped trying, but the loss was a complete and uter domination.

Calzaghe schooled his ass and he has never looked the same since.

To be beaten so comprehensively when he thought he was the man seems to have destroyed him mentally.

It seemed to be a psychological domination and it would be hard to recover from.

One thing I will give him is he can take a beating. But yes it finished him

Yes it did but he always did have major flaws which could be taken advantage of it has to be said the he was lucky that his 3 best wins were past there prime Syd Vanderpool Robin Reid Omar Sheika none of these fighters even at that best would i consider world class. Most of the time come forward fighters like Lacy have no defence and are 1 dimensional normally they do get found out unless the punchers are special like George Foreman Joe Louis amongst many other greats.

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Originally Posted by ssss

Yes it did but he always did have major flaws which could be taken advantage of it has to be said the he was lucky that his 3 best wins were past there prime Syd Vanderpool Robin Reid Omar Sheika none of these fighters even at that best would i consider world class. Most of the time come forward fighters like Lacy have no defence and are 1 dimensional normally they do get found out unless the punchers are special like George Foreman Joe Louis amongst many other greats.

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When you look at the so-called pro picks its about 20-1 in favour of Lacy. But to be honest 99% of those guys were American and American sports writers as a whole are not objective, hear "British" and think bum and see a power puncher and its love at first sight.

Ive never seen so many writers and casters not only wrong but completely and utterly wrong.

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Originally Posted by ssss

Yes it did but he always did have major flaws which could be taken advantage of it has to be said the he was lucky that his 3 best wins were past there prime Syd Vanderpool Robin Reid Omar Sheika none of these fighters even at that best would i consider world class. Most of the time come forward fighters like Lacy have no defence and are 1 dimensional normally they do get found out unless the punchers are special like George Foreman Joe Louis amongst many other greats.

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When you look at the so-called pro picks its about 20-1 in favour of Lacy. But to be honest 99% of those guys were American and American sports writers as a whole are not objective, hear "British" and think bum and see a power puncher and its love at first sight.

Ive never seen so many writers and casters not only wrong but completely and utterly wrong.

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That is very true.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

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Originally Posted by ssss

Yes it did but he always did have major flaws which could be taken advantage of it has to be said the he was lucky that his 3 best wins were past there prime Syd Vanderpool Robin Reid Omar Sheika none of these fighters even at that best would i consider world class. Most of the time come forward fighters like Lacy have no defence and are 1 dimensional normally they do get found out unless the punchers are special like George Foreman Joe Louis amongst many other greats.

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When you look at the so-called pro picks its about 20-1 in favour of Lacy. But to be honest 99% of those guys were American and American sports writers as a whole are not objective, hear "British" and think bum and see a power puncher and its love at first sight.

Ive never seen so many writers and casters not only wrong but completely and utterly wrong.

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That is quite shocking and just furthers the point that big punchers get very overrated i mean say two years ago Kelly Pavlik vs Joe Calzaghe wouldn't have been even talked about and now everyone wants to see it and are accusing Calzaghe of ducking. There will always be a new young puncher coming up through the ranks that they will want Joe Calzaghe to face or any champion for that matter i believe that if Floyd Mayweather defeats the winner of Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito i bet you the fans will want Mayweather to fight Andre Berto in a few years and accuse him of ducking Berto if he chooses not to fight him.

Lacy has always been shit and overhyped.

I say no because I think much like David Reid or Domonick Guinn that a long amateur career damaged Lacy more than anything. Had Lacy gone pro earlier he may have suffered a few more losses but his pro career would be longer and I still think he'd lose to Calzaghe.


Lacy's style is limited and he wasn't developed properly as a fighter. Bad management and bad training

I think he was ruined by that horrible shoulder injury in his next fight after Joe Cal

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear :lickish:

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear :lickish:

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Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight ;)

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.