Did the Calzaghe fight ruin Jeff Lacy?

[Markusdarkus]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

[BIG H]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

[Markusdarkus]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

Ive been through a few threads in 2005/6 and people posting in this thread right here had Lacy down as a demigod and had him obliterating Calzaghe.

I wont bump but yes before the fight everyone had Lacy after the fight hes a bum.

I will add up until Calzaghe, Lacy was a real good exciting fighter with power that made Pavlik look feather fisted.

[RP33]

Remember the build up it was hard to find anyone picking Calzaghe, Jeff was a wrecking ball. After Calzaghe everyone said i knew a good boxer would beat him he was always a limited bum.

Trying to discredit my Joe, i wont have it ya hear

Very few people on here had Calzaghe down to beat Lacy, funnily enough they all 'knew' how crap Lacy was after that fight and always 'knew' he was limited and a rookie. Didn't hear much of that before the fight

Ive been through a few threads in 2005/6 and people posting in this thread right here had Lacy down as a demigod and had him obliterating Calzaghe.

I wont bump but yes before the fight everyone had Lacy after the fight hes a bum.

I will add up until Calzaghe, Lacy was a real good exciting fighter with power that made Pavlik look feather fisted.

This is not the point though.. who cares who had who before the fight.. the question is did the Calzaghe fight ruin Lacy..

i think it's always a rude awakening when a confident undefeated fighter finally loses.. You will always know that you actually CAN lose now.. but Lacy has a lot of heart and will avoid no one, so that has to say something aobut his mental state..

i think that the shoulder injury ruined him more than Calzaghe did.. but as far as the question if Calzaghe ruined Lacy, i'd say yes and no.. more importantly he was EXPOSED.. He's still a big puncher who can take a lot of punishment, and that's what he was before also, people just are'nt as intimidated by him becuase they see what happened to him and gain confidence..

if i was fighting someone who looked like Lacy, and knew he was undefeated i'd already be quite intimidated.. but if i knew that some skinny white guy SLAPPED the hell out of him and beat him to a pulp, then i'd have QUITE a bit more confidence going into the fight..

[killersheep]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

[killersheep]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I voted no. Lacy had one great performance against Reid where he used more than just power and showed something special. It was a performance that I liken to Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson. To be a great boxer you need more than one big win. Reid was very old by the time Lacy fought him as well.

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.

That is true.

Some fighters have the natural ability to get away with being
one-dimensional.
Subsequently, a weak level of opposition can allow the fighter to domiante without being exposed.

I guess Calzaghe was that much better he exposed every flaw Jeff had.

I feel that at the moment there are a number of fighters in the division that could have performed similar revelations, but it still doesn't account for his shortcomings vs. Manfredo and Espianoza

[killersheep]

There was something special about Lacy though.
He was an Olympian, no mtter who you are thats a huge achievement.
He did scythe through each opponent in his early career, regardless of quality.

I just feel up until Round 1 of the Calzaghe fight he looked like a young man with tremendous faith in his own physical ability. A fighter can develop the skills from there.

But the Calzaghe defeat was so devastating he has the mentality of a first timer each time he enters the ring now.

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.

That is true.

Some fighters have the natural ability to get away with being
one-dimensional.
Subsequently, a weak level of opposition can allow the fighter to domiante without being exposed.

I guess Calzaghe was that much better he exposed every flaw Jeff had.

I feel that at the moment there are a number of fighters in the division that could have performed similar revelations, but it still doesn't account for his shortcomings vs. Manfredo and Espianoza

Although I am not a fan of Calzaghe, I give credit where it is due, Joe isn't a champ sheerly because of his blinding speed and great chin right? He is such a dominant champ because he can adapt to any situation, look at his win over Kessler that fight was actually pretty close UNTIL Joe switched it up and went on to control the last 7 rounds pretty comfortably.

[leftylee]

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.

That is true.

Some fighters have the natural ability to get away with being
one-dimensional.
Subsequently, a weak level of opposition can allow the fighter to domiante without being exposed.

I guess Calzaghe was that much better he exposed every flaw Jeff had.

I feel that at the moment there are a number of fighters in the division that could have performed similar revelations, but it still doesn't account for his shortcomings vs. Manfredo and Espianoza

Although I am not a fan of Calzaghe, I give credit where it is due, Joe isn't a champ sheerly because of his blinding speed and great chin right? He is such a dominant champ because he can adapt to any situation, look at his win over Kessler that fight was actually pretty close UNTIL Joe switched it up and went on to control the last 7 rounds pretty comfortably.

Like Floyd is a great champ coz he can adapt to any style, I hear ya sheep.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Duck to the right, weave left then left hook. One-trick pony. It's easy to get carried away when someone has power. And I am happy about his amateur career, being an olympian is an amazing feat, but like I said aside from the Reid fight I guess I just never saw anything special about him.

That is true.

Some fighters have the natural ability to get away with being
one-dimensional.
Subsequently, a weak level of opposition can allow the fighter to domiante without being exposed.

I guess Calzaghe was that much better he exposed every flaw Jeff had.

I feel that at the moment there are a number of fighters in the division that could have performed similar revelations, but it still doesn't account for his shortcomings vs. Manfredo and Espianoza

Although I am not a fan of Calzaghe, I give credit where it is due, Joe isn't a champ sheerly because of his blinding speed and great chin right? He is such a dominant champ because he can adapt to any situation, look at his win over Kessler that fight was actually pretty close UNTIL Joe switched it up and went on to control the last 7 rounds pretty comfortably.

Good point that, I'll have to remeber that.