Just looked at da rings ratings and they got him @ 6 p4p!
i mean shit i know he beat Cotto but he aint the 6th best fighter in the orld right now, tought as hell, big big heard and awsome work ethick, i am a big fan but 6 is way to high imo.
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Just looked at da rings ratings and they got him @ 6 p4p!
i mean shit i know he beat Cotto but he aint the 6th best fighter in the orld right now, tought as hell, big big heard and awsome work ethick, i am a big fan but 6 is way to high imo.
i agree hes a very good fighter , but he beat Cotto becuase styles make fights , i dont think he is an elite fighter , hes maybe 10 th.
well #6 does seem a little high but he did KO cotto which was in ppls eyes was #2 or #3
Saying he shouldn't be 6th just because he beat the guy who was 2nd/3rd/4th/5th or 6th is a little harsh i feel.
If you beat the world champion, you become the world champion. So i think if you beat the 6th rated p4p fighter (for example) you should take his place.
Whether he has style or great technique is irrelevant. He has the tools to get the job done. End of story.
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Spot on mate. If you want to become a champion beat the champion. Simple as that isn't it. The myth p4p rate is the same. If you beat the #1 p4p, you inherit his place. The reason why its hard to debate regarding p4p myth is that some still think its about technique or style. What if a fighter have technique or style but fighting bums or non rated... are they still p4p fighter? Its supposed to be who you beat to make it to the list. By the way i'm not a fun of this myth rating. It's nothing and really tiring to debate on...
Ring ratings are corrupt anyway . I go by the box rec rankings
Agreed he is the man to beat now at 147 why should he not be placed at 6;DQuote:
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Spot on mate. If you want to become a champion beat the champion. Simple as that isn't it. The myth p4p rate is the same. If you beat the #1 p4p, you inherit his place. The reason why its hard to debate regarding p4p myth is that some still think its about technique or style. What if a fighter have technique or style but fighting bums or non rated... are they still p4p fighter? Its supposed to be who you beat to make it to the list. By the way i'm not a fun of this myth rating. It's nothing and really tiring to debate on...
And also we must take into account the fact that technique and style doesn't win you fights on their own.
If that was the case, Cotto would still be undefeated. Technically he is far superior to Margarito, but it wasn't enough.
Yes, he deserves it. Regardless of skill, if you can KO somebody rated as high as #2 or #3, you should be ranked around 4th-7th.:cool:Quote:
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eesh what has the forum come to when i gotta you agreeing with me? ahha joking fella
Ok i dont check the ring ratings much anymore because they are wank, just like their self promoting articles.
but when the hell has cotto ever been 2 or 3? he has always been lower top 10??? yet to see creditable ratings rank him in the top 5, let alone fucking 2 or 3 lol
I would flip flop Margarito and Pavlik. Other than that, I don't see what the problem is with Margarito's ranking.
Miguel Cotto was rated 6th by Ring Magazine before his loss to Antonio Margarito.............
I believe majority of boxing fans had Miguel Cotto as a top 5 P4P fighter im not sure where Antonio Margarito was rated before his fight with Miguel Cotto but it does seem a big leap because im not even sure he would of been top 20 P4P fighter before the Miguel Cotto fight..............
But he did KO the number 6th rated P4P going by Ring Magazine's rankings and he has took his place nothing wrong in it although i have him rated lower than that.
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i dont see how u can put him in front of williams this soon after his loss, its not like he has improved or anything...
Then you got margarito 1, williams 2, cotto 3 in the WW rankings, yet williams is not in the p4p? he is a better WW that cotto goinmg by their ww rankings but not better p4p? even tho with his size he could prolly go up to middle or smw lol
Fuck the ring the lost the plot.
End of the day magarito is going to struggle agasint anyone who can box and has a chin, and there are a load of fighters out there who can do that.
He beat cotto coz cotto tired and has a dodgy chin fact.
cotto will get fucked up against any fighter who can take his punches and fight right tot he end. Shane tired after 3 rounds so don't throw him in the mix. stopping him doesnt make u some special fighter, tonis chin won him the fight, nothign else. to many fighters out there now could out box and take marg the distance in p4p terms.
thats coming from a guy who is a pretty big fan, but a realistic one of toni's.
and going by most of the logic on here, shouldn't taylor of been #1 when he beat hopkins?
Well, he did just pull off the biggest win of his career, a bigger win than anything Williams has ever done.Quote:
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This is a separate argument. I see your logic, but I don't see how Cotto being above Williams has anything to do with Margarito not being deserving of #6 PFP.Quote:
Then you got margarito 1, williams 2, cotto 3 in the WW rankings, yet williams is not in the p4p? he is a better WW that cotto goinmg by their ww rankings but not better p4p?
Or maybe Cotto got tired because Margarito was nailing him with quality body shots and uppercuts....Quote:
He beat cotto coz cotto tired and has a dodgy chin fact.
So Cotto loses one fight, now he'll lose to anyone who can take his punches?? Wow, not true at all. Margarito fought a great fight, give him credit.Quote:
cotto will get fucked up against any fighter who can take his punches and fight right tot he end.
No he didn't. He came on strong in the late rounds against Cotto. You're just discounting Mosley because Mosley completely disproves your point about Cotto not being able to beat anyone who can take his punches. Mosley took Cotto's punches and Cotto still beat him.Quote:
Shane tired after 3 rounds so don't throw him in the mix.