Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32

Thread: Margarito now #6....

Share/Bookmark
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    4,759
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1328
    Cool Clicks

    Default Margarito now #6....

    Just looked at da rings ratings and they got him @ 6 p4p!

    i mean shit i know he beat Cotto but he aint the 6th best fighter in the orld right now, tought as hell, big big heard and awsome work ethick, i am a big fan but 6 is way to high imo.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    12,254
    Mentioned
    159 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2472
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    i agree hes a very good fighter , but he beat Cotto becuase styles make fights , i dont think he is an elite fighter , hes maybe 10 th.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Miami
    Posts
    64
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    well #6 does seem a little high but he did KO cotto which was in ppls eyes was #2 or #3

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    8,466
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1400
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Saying he shouldn't be 6th just because he beat the guy who was 2nd/3rd/4th/5th or 6th is a little harsh i feel.

    If you beat the world champion, you become the world champion. So i think if you beat the 6th rated p4p fighter (for example) you should take his place.

    Whether he has style or great technique is irrelevant. He has the tools to get the job done. End of story.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    285
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1060
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Saying he shouldn't be 6th just because he beat the guy who was 2nd/3rd/4th/5th or 6th is a little harsh i feel.

    If you beat the world champion, you become the world champion. So i think if you beat the 6th rated p4p fighter (for example) you should take his place.

    Whether he has style or great technique is irrelevant. He has the tools to get the job done. End of story.



    Spot on mate. If you want to become a champion beat the champion. Simple as that isn't it. The myth p4p rate is the same. If you beat the #1 p4p, you inherit his place. The reason why its hard to debate regarding p4p myth is that some still think its about technique or style. What if a fighter have technique or style but fighting bums or non rated... are they still p4p fighter? Its supposed to be who you beat to make it to the list. By the way i'm not a fun of this myth rating. It's nothing and really tiring to debate on...

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,528
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1385
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Ring ratings are corrupt anyway . I go by the box rec rankings

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    858
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1253
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Saying he shouldn't be 6th just because he beat the guy who was 2nd/3rd/4th/5th or 6th is a little harsh i feel.

    If you beat the world champion, you become the world champion. So i think if you beat the 6th rated p4p fighter (for example) you should take his place.

    Whether he has style or great technique is irrelevant. He has the tools to get the job done. End of story.
    Agreed he is the man to beat now at 147 why should he not be placed at 6

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    8,466
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1400
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by antimoron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Saying he shouldn't be 6th just because he beat the guy who was 2nd/3rd/4th/5th or 6th is a little harsh i feel.

    If you beat the world champion, you become the world champion. So i think if you beat the 6th rated p4p fighter (for example) you should take his place.

    Whether he has style or great technique is irrelevant. He has the tools to get the job done. End of story.



    Spot on mate. If you want to become a champion beat the champion. Simple as that isn't it. The myth p4p rate is the same. If you beat the #1 p4p, you inherit his place. The reason why its hard to debate regarding p4p myth is that some still think its about technique or style. What if a fighter have technique or style but fighting bums or non rated... are they still p4p fighter? Its supposed to be who you beat to make it to the list. By the way i'm not a fun of this myth rating. It's nothing and really tiring to debate on...
    Good point

    And also we must take into account the fact that technique and style doesn't win you fights on their own.

    If that was the case, Cotto would still be undefeated. Technically he is far superior to Margarito, but it wasn't enough.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    4,574
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1503
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Just looked at da rings ratings and they got him @ 6 p4p!

    i mean shit i know he beat Cotto but he aint the 6th best fighter in the orld right now, tought as hell, big big heard and awsome work ethick, i am a big fan but 6 is way to high imo.
    Yes, he deserves it. Regardless of skill, if you can KO somebody rated as high as #2 or #3, you should be ranked around 4th-7th.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    4,759
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1328
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    i agree hes a very good fighter , but he beat Cotto becuase styles make fights , i dont think he is an elite fighter , hes maybe 10 th.

    eesh what has the forum come to when i gotta you agreeing with me? ahha joking fella


    Ok i dont check the ring ratings much anymore because they are wank, just like their self promoting articles.

    but when the hell has cotto ever been 2 or 3? he has always been lower top 10 yet to see creditable ratings rank him in the top 5, let alone fucking 2 or 3 lol

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    3,530
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1283
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    I would flip flop Margarito and Pavlik. Other than that, I don't see what the problem is with Margarito's ranking.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    329
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Miguel Cotto was rated 6th by Ring Magazine before his loss to Antonio Margarito.............

    I believe majority of boxing fans had Miguel Cotto as a top 5 P4P fighter im not sure where Antonio Margarito was rated before his fight with Miguel Cotto but it does seem a big leap because im not even sure he would of been top 20 P4P fighter before the Miguel Cotto fight..............

    But he did KO the number 6th rated P4P going by Ring Magazine's rankings and he has took his place nothing wrong in it although i have him rated lower than that.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    4,759
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1328
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    I would flip flop Margarito and Pavlik. Other than that, I don't see what the problem is with Margarito's ranking.

    i dont see how u can put him in front of williams this soon after his loss, its not like he has improved or anything...

    Then you got margarito 1, williams 2, cotto 3 in the WW rankings, yet williams is not in the p4p? he is a better WW that cotto goinmg by their ww rankings but not better p4p? even tho with his size he could prolly go up to middle or smw lol

    Fuck the ring the lost the plot.

    End of the day magarito is going to struggle agasint anyone who can box and has a chin, and there are a load of fighters out there who can do that.

    He beat cotto coz cotto tired and has a dodgy chin fact.

    cotto will get fucked up against any fighter who can take his punches and fight right tot he end. Shane tired after 3 rounds so don't throw him in the mix. stopping him doesnt make u some special fighter, tonis chin won him the fight, nothign else. to many fighters out there now could out box and take marg the distance in p4p terms.

    thats coming from a guy who is a pretty big fan, but a realistic one of toni's.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    4,759
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1328
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    and going by most of the logic on here, shouldn't taylor of been #1 when he beat hopkins?

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    3,530
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1283
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Margarito now #6....

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    i dont see how u can put him in front of williams this soon after his loss, its not like he has improved or anything...
    Well, he did just pull off the biggest win of his career, a bigger win than anything Williams has ever done.

    Then you got margarito 1, williams 2, cotto 3 in the WW rankings, yet williams is not in the p4p? he is a better WW that cotto goinmg by their ww rankings but not better p4p?
    This is a separate argument. I see your logic, but I don't see how Cotto being above Williams has anything to do with Margarito not being deserving of #6 PFP.

    He beat cotto coz cotto tired and has a dodgy chin fact.
    Or maybe Cotto got tired because Margarito was nailing him with quality body shots and uppercuts....

    cotto will get fucked up against any fighter who can take his punches and fight right tot he end.
    So Cotto loses one fight, now he'll lose to anyone who can take his punches?? Wow, not true at all. Margarito fought a great fight, give him credit.

    Shane tired after 3 rounds so don't throw him in the mix.
    No he didn't. He came on strong in the late rounds against Cotto. You're just discounting Mosley because Mosley completely disproves your point about Cotto not being able to beat anyone who can take his punches. Mosley took Cotto's punches and Cotto still beat him.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Oh my! Mad ups to Margarito.
    By SigmaMu in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 56
    Last Post: 07-28-2008, 06:43 AM
  2. margarito
    By Dark Lord Al in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-27-2008, 06:40 AM
  3. Margarito is no PBF!
    By gyrokai in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-11-2007, 07:12 PM
  4. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 10-12-2006, 10:06 AM
  5. if margarito beats mayweather, then judah beats margarito...
    By SalTheButcher in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-20-2006, 01:38 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing