would he be a p4p king?
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would he be a p4p king?
Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.
At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.
At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.
At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.
Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Thread Stealer
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game
I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyCamacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Thread Stealer
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game
Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.
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Originally Posted by canary
He would be dead
I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy outQuote:
Originally Posted by Thread StealerI thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyCamacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Thread Stealer
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game
Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.
Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying
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Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Thread StealerI thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.
I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy out
Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying
DOnt get me wrong im no boxing historian, but i have seen my fair share of fights and a good amount of fighters. To me floyd is the smartest and most calm i have ever seen. he can make his opponenet do things that he do things that set up his own puncges and his denfense is definately the best ive ever seen. I have yet to see him get flustered or worryed. I have seen one or two of pryors fights so i dont really kno all that much about him but in my mind hed have to hit like ernie shavers to "worry" floyd.
No disparaging of Floyd,but Pryor had out of nowhere power,he'd give Camacho fits though
Floyd would beat Macho no doubt.
But at 130-135 out of the 80s i think Chavez beats him and Duran obliterates him. At 140 the Hawlk would stop him.
At 147 hearns would toast him and Leonard would punch him all over the ring.
I actually think Oscar, Tito and Mosley in their prime would beat him he just isnt busy enough.
I don't see this amazing power of Pryor that you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
When I think of freakish punchers, I think of fighters like Jackson, Foreman, Zarate, Gomez, Arguello, etc...
When I think of Pryor, I see him as a solid hitter with terrific workrate and activity, and who could swarm and punch from numerous and unusual angles. Against most of the guys that he stopped in title bouts, fighters like Cervantes, Arguello, Johnson, Kameda, etc....it was just the non-stop activity and avalanche of punches.
It wasn't one of those "oh damn, one punch totally changed the fight" type things or "this guy is getting messed up from every clean punch landing".
It was more like "how can I get away from all these shots, this guy never stops throwing??!!"
Pryor would likely beat him, but Floyd would have avoided him if he was fighting in that era.
For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.
^^^ i agree i have never seen him hurt, worried, flustered, or panicked. He has one recorded knockdown and it was because he broke his hand and accidentally let his knee touch the canvas but brought it right back up.
Not pound for pound king, but he would have been the No.1 Lightweight in the world.
You can bet he would have stayed put at Lightweight and cleared it, because stepping up was a formidable task.
Agreed but who were the Lightweight kings in the 80's?