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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    No disparaging of Floyd,but Pryor had out of nowhere power,he'd give Camacho fits though

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Floyd would beat Macho no doubt.

    But at 130-135 out of the 80s i think Chavez beats him and Duran obliterates him. At 140 the Hawlk would stop him.

    At 147 hearns would toast him and Leonard would punch him all over the ring.

    I actually think Oscar, Tito and Mosley in their prime would beat him he just isnt busy enough.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    No disparaging of Floyd,but Pryor had out of nowhere power,he'd give Camacho fits though
    I don't see this amazing power of Pryor that you're talking about.

    When I think of freakish punchers, I think of fighters like Jackson, Foreman, Zarate, Gomez, Arguello, etc...

    When I think of Pryor, I see him as a solid hitter with terrific workrate and activity, and who could swarm and punch from numerous and unusual angles. Against most of the guys that he stopped in title bouts, fighters like Cervantes, Arguello, Johnson, Kameda, etc....it was just the non-stop activity and avalanche of punches.

    It wasn't one of those "oh damn, one punch totally changed the fight" type things or "this guy is getting messed up from every clean punch landing".

    It was more like "how can I get away from all these shots, this guy never stops throwing??!!"

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Pryor would likely beat him, but Floyd would have avoided him if he was fighting in that era.
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    ^^^ i agree i have never seen him hurt, worried, flustered, or panicked. He has one recorded knockdown and it was because he broke his hand and accidentally let his knee touch the canvas but brought it right back up.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Not pound for pound king, but he would have been the No.1 Lightweight in the world.

    You can bet he would have stayed put at Lightweight and cleared it, because stepping up was a formidable task.
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Agreed but who were the Lightweight kings in the 80's?
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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.
    It's true...he has never been truly hurt or knocked down...but then again...his resume isn't filled with highly dangerous opponents. Oscar was the closest he ever got to fighting a highly skilled fighter who could maybe hurt him. But Oscar wasn't exactly a young buck when they fought. Floyd is a great defensive fighter...no question. But how he would have fared against the likes of Duran, Hearns, or Hagler is a whole different question. Those fighters, along with guys like Pryor and Leonard, where in a whole different class than the guys Floyd has fought in his career. I'm not saying they would have knocked Floyd out...but i just don't think his resume should be a measuring stick for how would have fared aginst some of the all time greats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.
    It's true...he has never been truly hurt or knocked down...but then again...his resume isn't filled with highly dangerous opponents. Oscar was the closest he ever got to fighting a highly skilled fighter who could maybe hurt him. But Oscar wasn't exactly a young buck when they fought. Floyd is a great defensive fighter...no question. But how he would have fared against the likes of Duran, Hearns, or Hagler is a whole different question. Those fighters, along with guys like Pryor and Leonard, where in a whole different class than the guys Floyd has fought in his career. I'm not saying they would have knocked Floyd out...but i just don't think his resume should be a measuring stick for how would have fared aginst some of the all time greats.

    You can see Pryor was a better fighter than Castilllo and Corrales, but you can't deny their power. Castillo had a crazy KO record before he got older, and Corrales hit as hard as anyone I've seen in the lower weight categories. Oscar is undoubtably a great fighter, as great as Hearns, Pryor, etc. and a guy who could stand in there with Leonard and Duran and hold his own.

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Lets for arguments sake drag his career back 20 years,which would put the 1980s in the 2000s if u get me?! Im a bit drunk but hey,I think this works.... Floyd was at 130/SFW 1976/1996 Who did he fight?? # 135/LW 1982/2002 Who did he fight?? # 140/LWW 1983/2003 Who did he fight?? # 147/WW 1985/2005 Who did he fight?? # 154/LMW 1987/2007 Who did he fight??#

    If that doesn't work/cant be arsed! just picure him getting smashed round the Ring at whatever weight that takes your fancy by Duran,Benitez,Pryor,Hearns,Leonard,Chavez

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    Default Re: if floyd were around during the 80s...

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For someone to say that Floyd would get knocked out by anyone, wouldn't they first have to see him get hurt by someone? I mean I saw him get outworked in Castillo I, but I have never seen him hurt.
    It's true...he has never been truly hurt or knocked down...but then again...his resume isn't filled with highly dangerous opponents. Oscar was the closest he ever got to fighting a highly skilled fighter who could maybe hurt him. But Oscar wasn't exactly a young buck when they fought. Floyd is a great defensive fighter...no question. But how he would have fared against the likes of Duran, Hearns, or Hagler is a whole different question. Those fighters, along with guys like Pryor and Leonard, where in a whole different class than the guys Floyd has fought in his career. I'm not saying they would have knocked Floyd out...but i just don't think his resume should be a measuring stick for how would have fared aginst some of the all time greats.

    You can see Pryor was a better fighter than Castilllo and Corrales, but you can't deny their power. Castillo had a crazy KO record before he got older, and Corrales hit as hard as anyone I've seen in the lower weight categories. Oscar is undoubtably a great fighter, as great as Hearns, Pryor, etc. and a guy who could stand in there with Leonard and Duran and hold his own.
    I am not questioning Castillo and Corrales power. But neither was truly a great all around fighter. And neither was anywhere near as good as guys like Hearns, Pryor, or some of the other greats from the 70's and 80's. Skill wise...Oscar is by far the best fighter Floyd has faced. And as highly as i rank Oscar's skills...i just can't put him in the same category as some of the greats we have mentioned. With arguments like this...there really cannot be a definitive answer. Just a lot of "what ifs." I just personally have never seen Floyd against a truly great, prime fighter. Does that mean i don't think he could beat some of the past all time greats...no. It's just that his resume doesn't inspire supreme confidence in these match up. Just my opinion.

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