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I've been deep in thought about this fight and honestly, what benefit will hopkins get if he defeats Pavlik? Is it becuz Taylor won the middleweight championship from Hopkins & by beating Pavlik would be like getting it back cuz Pavlik dismantled Taylor? If Pavlik wins what will benefit him? would it put him up higher in the P4P rankings & solidify his name? What do you think and why?
Hopkins gets another possible future HOFer on his record,and goes right back up the P4P list with a win,and his legacy gets better.I suppose at the back of his mind he does think he can make up the 2 loses against Taylor with this.Pavlik dont get much out of this with the casual Boxing fan,I think i'll respect him more if he can get a clear win against B Hop! If he gets a K.O I think most Boxing fans will sit up and take notice! Oh theres allways the $$$$$$$$$$$ factor!!!!
....ummmm to be compared to Joe Calzaghe and to best him therefore setting up a superfight with Calzaghe.
Good enough reason for you???
Correct. ^^^
I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.
Why?
Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.
Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.
...b-hop gets another big name on his list before retirement, hop wouldn't be able to live with himself going out on a loss or a win over a sub par opponet. I belive he wants another tarver type win where he's doubted and pulls it out before he kicks rocks and steps aside. I highly doubt this will be his last fight since i don't see him beating pavlik, but i've said that about hopkins tons of times, some betters would probably be worried if said hop would win. I picked him against joe and look what happened !
Mick #1 Do you think you have enough pics in your sig? #2 Bernard won't let Kelly look good but Bernard has also never been KO'd and if Kelly does that then he does look impressive and I think that's the big selling point of this fight to Pavlik.
And if Bernard shocks Kelly then hell people keep talking about how great he is and if Roy Jones Jr. beats Calzaghe (which COULD happen although it's an unlikely outcome) it sets up a giant fight with those guys.
Bernard should have fought James Toney...that would have been a tough tough fight
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Selling a fight on a potential knockout... How exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Sorry but it's not.
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The hell with this I don't care what they did at one point truth is I don't get excited about anyone of them fighting not B-Hop, not Toney, not RJJ.
They gotta move out the way and make room for the new guys it's time they retire for good.
I would love to see Hopkins Vs Toney! Wouldn't win fight of the year,but it would intrigue me! Thats a fight that should of happend over a decade ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
And how on earth would you expect Bernard to come up so far in weight to fight that fat-ass? There would be absolutely no purpose in such a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by njacketsI would love to see Hopkins Vs Toney! Wouldn't win fight of the year,but it would intrigue me! Thats a fight that should of happend over a decade ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Mick....Bernard Hopkins lasted 12 with Joe Calzaghe right? Hopkins gave Calzaghe a tough fight right? Hopkins floored Calzaghe in the first round right? Calzaghe is one of the top P4P fighters right now right? Calzaghe is one of the best 168 fighters of all time right?
Pavlik wants to be a top P4P fighter right? Pavlik wants to be one of the top 160-175 fighters of all time right? Pavlik is a tough SOB right?
The doesn't it make sense for Pavlik to test himself vs Bernard Hopkins thereby testing himself by proxy vs Joe Calzaghe thereby setting up a superfight vs Joe Calzaghe. Yes it seems as if both Calzaghe and Pavlik are going around their asses to get to their elbows but hey Pavlik vs Hopkins AND Calzaghe vs Jones Jr. are good fights....not PPV fights IMO but good fights and if they were matched on the same night on the same card then YES I would love to pay to see those fights
I still cant understand Pavlik fighting hopkins, it just dont make sense i am hoping it will after the fight but at the moments:confused::confused::confused::confused::co nfused:
Because if Pavlik beats Hopkins in a crude manner then were can Joe Calzaghe hide. You dont think the Lockett fight had a little to do with that. Joe wanted to fight Pavlik years ago now Joe says he is unworthy. What a load of crap. He is running. Pavlik is just trying to lay down the spike strips. Thats why this fight is important. Abraham has a mandatory. What do you want Pavlik to do? Sit for 8 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick