Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?

[CutMeMick]

I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.

Why?

Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.

Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.

[Mar]

...b-hop gets another big name on his list before retirement, hop wouldn't be able to live with himself going out on a loss or a win over a sub par opponet. I belive he wants another tarver type win where he's doubted and pulls it out before he kicks rocks and steps aside. I highly doubt this will be his last fight since i don't see him beating pavlik, but i've said that about hopkins tons of times, some betters would probably be worried if said hop would win. I picked him against joe and look what happened !

[El Kabong]

Mick #1 Do you think you have enough pics in your sig? #2 Bernard won't let Kelly look good but Bernard has also never been KO'd and if Kelly does that then he does look impressive and I think that's the big selling point of this fight to Pavlik.


And if Bernard shocks Kelly then hell people keep talking about how great he is and if Roy Jones Jr. beats Calzaghe (which COULD happen although it's an unlikely outcome) it sets up a giant fight with those guys.


Bernard should have fought James Toney...that would have been a tough tough fight

[CutMeMick]

Mick #1 Do you think you have enough pics in your sig?

No.
I haven't gotten around to uploading the others I have as soon as I do I'll let you know.

#2 Bernard won't let Kelly look good but Bernard has also never been KO'd and if Kelly does that then he does look impressive and I think that's the big selling point of this fight to Pavlik.

Selling a fight on a potential knockout... How exciting.
Sorry but it's not.

And if Bernard shocks Kelly then hell people keep talking about how great he is and if Roy Jones Jr. beats Calzaghe (which COULD happen although it's an unlikely outcome) it sets up a giant fight with those guys.


Bernard should have fought James Toney...that would have been a tough tough fight

Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah......
The hell with this I don't care what they did at one point truth is I don't get excited about anyone of them fighting not B-Hop, not Toney, not RJJ.
They gotta move out the way and make room for the new guys it's time they retire for good.

[El Kabong]

Mick....Bernard Hopkins lasted 12 with Joe Calzaghe right? Hopkins gave Calzaghe a tough fight right? Hopkins floored Calzaghe in the first round right? Calzaghe is one of the top P4P fighters right now right? Calzaghe is one of the best 168 fighters of all time right?

Pavlik wants to be a top P4P fighter right? Pavlik wants to be one of the top 160-175 fighters of all time right? Pavlik is a tough SOB right?


The doesn't it make sense for Pavlik to test himself vs Bernard Hopkins thereby testing himself by proxy vs Joe Calzaghe thereby setting up a superfight vs Joe Calzaghe. Yes it seems as if both Calzaghe and Pavlik are going around their asses to get to their elbows but hey Pavlik vs Hopkins AND Calzaghe vs Jones Jr. are good fights....not PPV fights IMO but good fights and if they were matched on the same night on the same card then YES I would love to pay to see those fights

[Drago]

I still cant understand Pavlik fighting hopkins, it just dont make sense i am hoping it will after the fight but at the moments

[Drago]

I still cant understand Pavlik fighting hopkins, it just dont make sense i am hoping it will after the fight but at the moments

nope didnt make sense

[southakron314]

Mick....Bernard Hopkins lasted 12 with Joe Calzaghe right? Hopkins gave Calzaghe a tough fight right? Hopkins floored Calzaghe in the first round right? Calzaghe is one of the top P4P fighters right now right? Calzaghe is one of the best 168 fighters of all time right?

Pavlik wants to be a top P4P fighter right? Pavlik wants to be one of the top 160-175 fighters of all time right? Pavlik is a tough SOB right?


The doesn't it make sense for Pavlik to test himself vs Bernard Hopkins thereby testing himself by proxy vs Joe Calzaghe thereby setting up a superfight vs Joe Calzaghe. Yes it seems as if both Calzaghe and Pavlik are going around their asses to get to their elbows but hey Pavlik vs Hopkins AND Calzaghe vs Jones Jr. are good fights....not PPV fights IMO but good fights and if they were matched on the same night on the same card then YES I would love to pay to see those fights

But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.

[El Kabong]

But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.

True but when has Joe Calzaghe been interested in fighting the best possible competition

[njackets]

Mick #1 Do you think you have enough pics in your sig? #2 Bernard won't let Kelly look good but Bernard has also never been KO'd and if Kelly does that then he does look impressive and I think that's the big selling point of this fight to Pavlik.


And if Bernard shocks Kelly then hell people keep talking about how great he is and if Roy Jones Jr. beats Calzaghe (which COULD happen although it's an unlikely outcome) it sets up a giant fight with those guys.


Bernard should have fought James Toney...that would have been a tough tough fight

I would love to see Hopkins Vs Toney! Wouldn't win fight of the year,but it would intrigue me! Thats a fight that should of happend over a decade ago!

[The Shadow]

Mick #1 Do you think you have enough pics in your sig? #2 Bernard won't let Kelly look good but Bernard has also never been KO'd and if Kelly does that then he does look impressive and I think that's the big selling point of this fight to Pavlik.


And if Bernard shocks Kelly then hell people keep talking about how great he is and if Roy Jones Jr. beats Calzaghe (which COULD happen although it's an unlikely outcome) it sets up a giant fight with those guys.


Bernard should have fought James Toney...that would have been a tough tough fight

I would love to see Hopkins Vs Toney! Wouldn't win fight of the year,but it would intrigue me! Thats a fight that should of happend over a decade ago!

And how on earth would you expect Bernard to come up so far in weight to fight that fat-ass? There would be absolutely no purpose in such a fight.

[southakron314]

I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.

Why?

Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.

Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.

There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.

[Phil]

I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.

Why?

Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.

Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.

There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.

better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.

[southakron314]

I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.

Why?

Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.

Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.

There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.

better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.

Pavlik can do just as much damage late in a fight but a bigger man in Calzaghe cant even leave a scratch in the fender. Watch the Taylor 2 fight he was throwing hard punches . Calzaghe maybe soo weak that he looks winded. You think he would hit harder than a 85 pound Koeran gymnast.

[Markusdarkus]

There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.

better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.

Pavlik can do just as much damage late in a fight but a bigger man in Calzaghe cant even leave a scratch in the fender. Watch the Taylor 2 fight he was throwing hard punches . Calzaghe maybe soo weak that he looks winded. You think he would hit harder than a 85 pound Koeran gymnast.

Name two fighters that went 12rds with Calzaghe and didnt have a mark on there face.

The only fight he didnt look great in was the Hopkins fight a career worst didplay and that was because he has to lead against a come foward fighter its different. They always end up busted up.