Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
If that punch had not landed?
Hatton went down twice in first rd, JMM went down 3 times and came back.
Please consider the following:
Hatton was landing on Paq, not an amazing amount, but he landed more in 2 rds than Oscar De La Hoya did in the entire fight. Paq has said that Hattons puches were hurtful.
Although Hatton went down in rd 1 twice, he had not gone down in rd 2, in my view he clearly was having more success in rd 2 than rd 1, although Paq clearly took the round.
Consider the fight was of an incredible pace which could not be sustained, I believe if Hatton had survived another 2 rounds, Paq would have slowed down giving Hatton a chance in the later rounds.
I am not saying Hatton would have won, all I am asking is would he have had a chance later on if Paq slowed down?
The fight was an incredible 7 minutes worth of action and to me showed me why no other sport could match it when at its best.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
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richard (mossley)
If that punch had not landed?
Hatton went down twice in first rd, JMM went down 3 times and came back.
Please consider the following:
Hatton was landing on Paq, not an amazing amount, but he landed more in 2 rds than Oscar De La Hoya did in the entire fight. Paq has said that Hattons puches were hurtful.
Although Hatton went down in rd 1 twice, he had not gone down in rd 2, in my view he clearly was having more success in rd 2 than rd 1, although Paq clearly took the round.
Consider the fight was of an incredible pace which could not be sustained, I believe if Hatton had survived another 2 rounds, Paq would have slowed down giving Hatton a chance in the later rounds.
I am not saying Hatton would have won, all I am asking is would he have had a chance later on if Paq slowed down?
The fight was an incredible 7 minutes worth of action and to me showed me why no other sport could match it when at its best.
and in the fantasy land bunnies also eat sunshine a shit rainbows......
..i agree Hatton recovered well after the first and did pressure Manny a bit better than in the 1st, but he was still just as careless and was losing the round clearly even without the KO ending, i don't see it changing one bit seeing how Pacquiao has great stamina and doesn't tire that much in the later rounds, honestly if Manny hadn't Ko'd Hatton there he would have just cut him up or he would have won by TKO due to swelling, Hatton's eyes were already puffy by the end of the first
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
I don't think so, no not at all. Edit: technically anything could happen but its not likely.
Everything Pac was landing was effecting Ricky, and while JMM may have survived he's just a much tougher matchup for Manny. The way Ricky was coming in, head up, hands only half up, leading with left hooks Manny could counter easily makes me think Manny would have just landed too much and Hatton would have eventually not been able to take it.
Also Manny's in great shape, it would take a lot for him to wilt.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
yeah he did hurt Pac in the second but the trouble is Pac dosn't slow down.
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Saddo
yeah he did hurt Pac in the second but the trouble is Pac dosn't slow down.
exactly, all i think that Ricky hurting Pac proved is that Cotto and Mosley at 147 are too much for him, IMO they hit a hell of alot harder, and are far more skilled
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
Did he really hurt Manny much in that round, I didn't notice it live, maybe Manny mentioned it.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
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OumaFan
Did he really hurt Manny much in that round, I didn't notice it live, maybe Manny mentioned it.
he didn't rock the hell out of him, but Manny wobbled a bit, and said himself that Hatton hit VERY hard, both Cotto and Mosley hit harder than Hatton
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
Pac could have sliced and diced Hatton's face if the fight went the distance. Hatton fans should be grateful. Pac gave him the quick and merciful KO.
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ASIAN SENSATION
Pac could have sliced and diced Hatton's face if the fight went the distance. Hatton fans should be grateful. Pac gave him the quick and merciful KO.
yea lets not go there.....all i gotta say is you're starting to push it a bit, and i'm no Hatton fan
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
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ElTerribleMorales
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ASIAN SENSATION
Pac could have sliced and diced Hatton's face if the fight went the distance. Hatton fans should be grateful. Pac gave him the quick and merciful KO.
yea lets not go there.....all i gotta say is you're starting to push it a bit, and i'm no Hatton fan
In the 2nd round, Hatton was like a mouse dying in his hiding hole after receiving the Pac venom in 1st round. Ref bayless even admitted that he was gonna stop the fight after the 2nd KD. REFEREE BAYLESS: HATTON GONE IN FIRST ROUND And I'm glad he did not cuz it would've been a controversial win for Pac. :)
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
In a hypothetical world, Yea, Pac could have ran into a shot from Hatton that could have Ko'd him. That can happen to any fighter.
But in the real world Hatton challenged Pacquiao with his brute strength and got knocked out cold for it. I had predicted Hatton to lasting until the 7th or 8th but I have to say after seeing that fight, I wrong big time. Had Hatton come out with a defensive/offensive mind set using the Jab to get close, Pacquiao's right hook was just too fast for Hatton and I think Roach had it right.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
From what I saw, when Hatton hit Manny with the right hand with 2:36 left in the second, he was also standing on Manny's foot. Manny pulled back and semi tripped, but when right back in for more.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
Well Pac does tries to remain humble and gives out some credit dispite throughly dominating his opponents, he did say the same thing about Oscar. People said there was no way he would be able to move up and be successful after being rocked by Larios and look
what happens ... dispite that I think he should go no where near Mosely or Cotto , one clean power punch from either these guys
either to the body or head WOULD hurt Manny, no doubt.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
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Deanrw
From what I saw, when Hatton hit Manny with the right hand with 2:36 left in the second, he was also standing on Manny's foot. Manny pulled back and semi tripped, but when right back in for more.
i missed that and thought he was hurt slightly... cheers for posting that as i totally missed the foot... good eye ;)
will look for that the next time i watch the fight.
Re: Hypothetically: Could Hatton Have Beat Paq?
I think if Hatton had of made it through the second round he might have lasted about another minute through the 3rd.;D