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He's going to be released to a halfway house in October, and would like to fight a few months after. Interesting to see how well he could do after being away from the sport for awhile.
Manager says James Kirkland to be transferred to halfway house on October 2 - ESPN
IMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
This is good news.
I really hope Kirkland keeps it together this time, and stays out of trouble.
This is his LAST CHANCE.
A good tune up fight to shake the ring rust, a fight against a low top ten and we'll see what he's all about and if he did get how he should behave.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Wow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
i don't rate either Angulo or Martirosyan too highly, and there was a time where Kirkland was being labeled the next king of the 154 lb division, i always felt that even an old Vernon Forrest (R.I.P) would have badly beaten Kirkland, only thing he has that's special is his power, and even that doesn't equate to much seeing how he usually just throws one punch at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Wow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
I think Kirkland would rape Martiosyan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't rate either Angulo or Martirosyan too highly, and there was a time where Kirkland was being labeled the next king of the 154 lb division, i always felt that even an old Vernon Forrest (R.I.P) would have badly beaten Kirkland, only thing he has that's special is his power, and even that doesn't equate to much seeing how he usually just throws one punch at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Wow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
Ouma beat that guy and got jobbed.
IMO beating Martirosyan wouldn't be saying much, i really don't rate the guy that highly, he gets hit way too much and doesn't have much of a work rate
I pray Kirkland keeps his focus in the ring where it belongs. Hes a great talent and a definate 154 contender, this is his last chance and he better not mess it up. I look forward to seeing this exciting fighter back in the ring.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't rate either Angulo or Martirosyan too highly, and there was a time where Kirkland was being labeled the next king of the 154 lb division, i always felt that even an old Vernon Forrest (R.I.P) would have badly beaten Kirkland, only thing he has that's special is his power, and even that doesn't equate to much seeing how he usually just throws one punch at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Wow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
So are you saying that Angulo would get beat up by Cotto at 154?
Angulo gets outboxed by any decent boxer at 154, Cotto is more than just a decent boxer, if Julio was right there with Angulo until the stoppage Cotto beats him handilyQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixAAQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't rate either Angulo or Martirosyan too highly, and there was a time where Kirkland was being labeled the next king of the 154 lb division, i always felt that even an old Vernon Forrest (R.I.P) would have badly beaten Kirkland, only thing he has that's special is his power, and even that doesn't equate to much seeing how he usually just throws one punch at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboWow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
So are you saying that Angulo would get beat up by Cotto at 154?
That is the only fight that I think Cotto would think about because all the other guys are way to big for him, however I think Angulo would probably put a beating on Cotto, he will get flashbacks of his last two losses and he would get stopped in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesAngulo gets outboxed by any decent boxer at 154, Cotto is more than just a decent boxer, if Julio was right there with Angulo until the stoppage Cotto beats him handilyQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixAAQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi don't rate either Angulo or Martirosyan too highly, and there was a time where Kirkland was being labeled the next king of the 154 lb division, i always felt that even an old Vernon Forrest (R.I.P) would have badly beaten Kirkland, only thing he has that's special is his power, and even that doesn't equate to much seeing how he usually just throws one punch at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboWow you honestly think top p4p guys like Martinez, Cotto and Williams might beat him, and that he'd be 50/50 against the other top two prospects in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO Kirkland is fucked, i never really rated him too high to begin with, and honestly i think guys like Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Cintron, and Dzinziruk beat him, hell i'd go far enough to say a fight between Kirkland and either Angulo or Martirosyan would be about 50/50Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
You make it sound like the rest of the boxing world is touting him as a future all time great.
If you think he has a 50/50 chance against the likes of Angulo and Martiroysan he sounds pretty exciting to me.
So are you saying that Angulo would get beat up by Cotto at 154?
An in shape kirkland imo can hang with anyone at 154. He's not the greatest or anything but him and anne wolfe will rape one of those worthless belts off someone.
it'd be Spinks if anyone lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
.....I heard he and Wolfe aren't on good terms right now, he may switch trainers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
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