How shot is shane Mosley? Why is he considered to be in "good Shape" and ready now?
Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
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Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
Who said that ? i think Shane Mosley is way past his best. He didn't look good vs Sergio Mora, and has been very hot/cold for atleast 5 years.
Just compare the Shane Mosley now, to the Lightweight version of Shane Mosley. Who was a complete fighting machine who could fight hard for 12 rounds.
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I don't think he's shot so much simply not what he once was. Last two styles plays part to. He's not going to have to chase Manny. He's not getting wobbled but if his chin is shot, we'll see it and have many more punching oppurtunies here.
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Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
General, I felt Shane was a bit past it when he fought Floyd and I feel the same way now. I do feel though that his fight with Pac could be fun to watch, but I don't feel Shane is the best opponent available for Pac right now. But, let's be honest, Shane is a well-recognized welterweight, and Pac is a star, it'll be a big money fight. The main redeeming thing to me is that Pac is literally cleaning out the welterweight division other than Floyd. If he fought Berto, he literally would have beat every top welterweight out there other than Floyd. I do hope Pac takes on a more viable opponent next.
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Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
Who said that ? i think Shane Mosley is way past his best. He didn't look good vs Sergio Mora, and has been very hot/cold for atleast 5 years.
Just compare the Shane Mosley now, to the Lightweight version of Shane Mosley. Who was a complete fighting machine who could fight hard for 12 rounds.
A lot of Floyd haters and Pac lovers said that. Floyd fought an old, past his prime, inactive Mosley. But Pac is fighting a better version of Mosley according to them.
I'm disappointed that they haven't posted here yet to explain themselves.
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Mosley would have always had troubles against Floyd or even Sergio Mora. His style isn't effective against boxers with a good jab, and if they are strong enough to stand up to him. But let's be honest he controlled that fight against Mora, and should have won that fight in a relative landslide. He landed way more, he was the aggressor, and he should have won. Is he what he once was? No, but I think he's better at some things and worse at others. In total he is a little deminished, but I think while he is a little slower that he is physically stronger and smarter as a fighter. No way do I see a younger Mosley doing what he did to Margarito.
If anything Mosley looked better against Margarito then Pacquiao did. He stopped Margarito, got hit less, was never hurt, and his punches effected Margarito more. That's why I think this is such an interesting fight. Manny can't bottle Mosley up the same way Floyd did, Floyd was taking away Mosley initiative with his innate defensive skills and his ability to slow the tempo to the pace he likes. Manny will have to try and outgun Mosley which is a task much harder then anything he has experienced recently and maybe even ever. I don't think Mosley needs to have the same type of reaction speed against Manny as he did against Floyd, this will be more of a tit-for-tat type fight where both guys will be hit, both have great chins, and the winner will be decided on whether Mosley who hits harder will be able to effect Pacquiao who hits more.
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I don't think Shane is as shot as people make him out to be. It's just his last few opponents styles carried the fight.
Mayorga - Wild punches and reckless. Luckily Shane caught him at the last second, cause my card did not favor Mosley.
Margarito - Straight forward. BULL!!! Mosley fought smart. Punch and hold, until he rocked Margarito.
Mayweather - Floyd makes every fighter he fight, seem amatuer flawed.
Mora - Bounce and afraid to engage. But upclose, Mora was landed the more solid shots.(watch the fight) But it wasn't nearly enough.
Now . . .
Pacman ? He a bull too. Coming straight forward. See above!!!
I like Mosley chances.
Whats the odds against Mosley? I gotta catch a flight to Vegas;D
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You can spin it all you want, Mosley is shot.
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Shane is definitely past it. Being past it doesn't mean he is a bum...but he no longer has the legs or stamina. You can talk all about the match up styles of his recent fights...but the big thing i see, is that Shane starts gassing out my the middle rounds. His output drops considerably as the fight progresses recently.
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Shane is definitely past it. Being past it doesn't mean he is a bum...but he no longer has the legs or stamina. You can talk all about the match up styles of his recent fights...but the big thing i see, is that Shane starts gassing out my the middle rounds. His output drops considerably as the fight progresses recently.
This is how I see it too.
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I thought you knew...if you lose in boxing your shot, if you win your on perfomance enhancing drugs.
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Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
Who said that ? i think Shane Mosley is way past his best. He didn't look good vs Sergio Mora, and has been very hot/cold for atleast 5 years.
Just compare the Shane Mosley now, to the Lightweight version of Shane Mosley. Who was a complete fighting machine who could fight hard for 12 rounds.
A lot of Floyd haters and Pac lovers said that. Floyd fought an old, past his prime, inactive Mosley. But Pac is fighting a better version of Mosley according to them.
I'm disappointed that they haven't posted here yet to explain themselves.
You sound like Milfagcaras. "They said this, they said that".
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Mosley would have always had troubles against Floyd or even Sergio Mora. His style isn't effective against boxers with a good jab, and if they are strong enough to stand up to him. But let's be honest he controlled that fight against Mora, and should have won that fight in a relative landslide. He landed way more, he was the aggressor, and he should have won. Is he what he once was? No, but I think he's better at some things and worse at others. In total he is a little deminished, but I think while he is a little slower that he is physically stronger and smarter as a fighter. No way do I see a younger Mosley doing what he did to Margarito.
If anything Mosley looked better against Margarito then Pacquiao did. He stopped Margarito, got hit less, was never hurt, and his punches effected Margarito more. That's why I think this is such an interesting fight. Manny can't bottle Mosley up the same way Floyd did, Floyd was taking away Mosley initiative with his innate defensive skills and his ability to slow the tempo to the pace he likes. Manny will have to try and outgun Mosley which is a task much harder then anything he has experienced recently and maybe even ever. I don't think Mosley needs to have the same type of reaction speed against Manny as he did against Floyd, this will be more of a tit-for-tat type fight where both guys will be hit, both have great chins, and the winner will be decided on whether Mosley who hits harder will be able to effect Pacquiao who hits more.
I like your take on it.
I think Shane will get timed more easily by Manny coming forward and will be jolted a few times and tko'd mid rounds 8th.
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Who here thinks Shane Mosley is completely shot or close to it? Why is he considered to be in good shape now for Pac? But when Floyd fought him it was he was too old, shot, and over the hill.
So what does that make Shane now? So how can this version of shane be considered better than the one Floyd fought?
Who said that ? i think Shane Mosley is way past his best. He didn't look good vs Sergio Mora, and has been very hot/cold for atleast 5 years.
Just compare the Shane Mosley now, to the Lightweight version of Shane Mosley. Who was a complete fighting machine who could fight hard for 12 rounds.
A lot of Floyd haters and Pac lovers said that. Floyd fought an old, past his prime, inactive Mosley. But Pac is fighting a better version of Mosley according to them.
I'm disappointed that they haven't posted here yet to explain themselves.
You sound like Milfagcaras. "They said this, they said that".
And it's true. Nothing I said about this stuff is a lie. So calm down. Why be offended?
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I can't stand Mayweather but think Mosley was actually one of the bigger more 'live' physical threats he's faced. Much respect for win......Vivian Harris= shot.....Shane Mosley.....39 yrs old
