should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
i saw a link to an old saddo article from 2008....
(http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ar-2008-a.html)
it made me laugh and wonder... having fought only twice since 2007....should floyd still be ranked at the top? or can we maybe come up with some kind of P4P Diamond Ranking or some shit? haha....
Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
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ElTerribleMorales
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
So what? That doesn't make it right. Makes me sick hearing everywhere about fighters who don't fight but claim to be "active", living from the hype. In Floyd's case it's much worse though.
Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
I know that Dan Rafeal is removing him from his P4P on May 1st. That will be 1 year inactive, at that point i think it's only right. 1 year is a long time to be in the p4p without fighting. In my opinion all p4p list should remove him on May 1st.
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I believe that after a one year non injury caused layoff that a fighter should be out. PFP should be for serious active fighters who are looking to prove their greatness. Not part time primma donna's like 'likkle' Floyd Jr.
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Should Mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
Gee.... I don't know. But I tend to gravitate toward:
HELL NO
Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
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I believe that after a one year non injury caused layoff that a fighter should be out. PFP should be for serious active fighters who are looking to prove their greatness. Not part time primma donna's like 'likkle' Floyd Jr.
I agree with that 12 month cutoff but with the 1 caveat that they dont have an officially scheduled fight soon to happen. And Mayweather doesnt so i'd remove him if he doesnt announce a fight by May 1st
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don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
There is a HUGE difference between Marquez & Vazquez, versus Floyd. Israel and Rafa are WARRIORS. They have practically destroyed each other. Their layoffs have been not only well-deserved, but health-mandated. Neither Rafa nor Israel go "cherry-picking" their opponents, nor could they give a RAT'S ASS about who's #1 p4p. They're fighters.... who fight whomever is placed in front of them. So should Mayweather get the same treatment?
See my answer a few posts above.
;)
Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
Who cares whether or not he appears on some fabled phantom p4p list? It’s a favourite's list and has nothing really to do with pugilistic endeavor in the way it is applied today. Its a bastardized term void of any real meaning. It actually met something when there were only eight divisions. I can’t stand the tool but he still is arguably the best boxer on the planet so removing him from some marketing list means nothing.
Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?
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ElTerribleMorales
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
There is a HUGE difference between Marquez & Vazquez, versus Floyd. Israel and Rafa are WARRIORS. They have practically destroyed each other. Their layoffs have been not only well-deserved, but health-mandated. Neither Rafa nor Israel go "cherry-picking" their opponents, nor could they give a RAT'S ASS about who's #1 p4p. They're fighters.... who fight whomever is placed in front of them. So should Mayweather get the same treatment?
See my answer a few posts above.
;)
thing is, he's already accomplished more than both Rafa and Izzy, you don't just get judged on your recent performances if not overall accomplishments and how sharp you've looked, Mayweather beating the shit out of (the then lineal Welterweight Champion) Mosley was a lot more impressive than Marquez losing yet again to Vazquez, and apart from Martinez who in the top 3 fights all comers? you know damned well Manny isn't, and unless he gets his way in negotiations the fight doesn't come off (gee who else does that sound like?), so fuck both Pacquiao and Mayweather in my book Sergio Martinez is P4P #1 and that's all that matters, and i've said it once and i'll say it again, he'll beat both easily
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ElTerribleMorales
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
There is a HUGE difference between Marquez & Vazquez, versus Floyd. Israel and Rafa are WARRIORS. They have practically destroyed each other. Their layoffs have been not only well-deserved, but health-mandated. Neither Rafa nor Israel go "cherry-picking" their opponents, nor could they give a RAT'S ASS about who's #1 p4p. They're fighters.... who fight whomever is placed in front of them. So should Mayweather get the same treatment?
See my answer a few posts above.
;)
thing is, he's already accomplished more than both Rafa and Izzy, you don't just get judged on your recent performances if not overall accomplishments and how sharp you've looked, Mayweather beating the shit out of (the then lineal Welterweight Champion) Mosley was a lot more impressive than Marquez losing yet again to Vazquez, and apart from Martinez who in the top 3 fights all comers? you know damned well Manny isn't, and unless he gets his way in negotiations the fight doesn't come off (gee who else does that sound like?), so fuck both Pacquiao and Mayweather in my book Sergio Martinez is P4P #1 and that's all that matters, and i've said it once and i'll say it again, he'll beat both easily
You can't rest on past laurels and expect to keep getting considered p4p. If we're gonna do that.... let's not stop at Mayweather. Let's bring back ANY fighter who's still semi-active and has had a great career. Personally, I'd rather dig a little deeper and find fighters who are FULLY active and leave it all out there for the fans. So what if Marquez's and Vazquez's careers don't quite measure up to Floyd's? For that matter... you can make the point that Sergio's doesn't either (measure up to Floyd's). But who the hell cares? I sure don't. As a fan, give me a Sergio, a Rafa, an Israel ANY day... over the prancing, clowning, inactive Floyd. He's already his OWN biggest fan... but his fan base is surely eroding as he lets time go by without giving the fans what they yearn for..... epic fights. And I do not put Pacquiao in the same category with Floyd. At least Pacquiao FIGHTS. No matter who it is. Pac haters will always find fault with Pac's choice of opponents. It's the nature of the game. But at least Pac FIGHTS.
IMO, Floyd may have been p4p a while back. But he's given up that throne a LONG time ago.
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ElTerribleMorales
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
There is a HUGE difference between Marquez & Vazquez, versus Floyd. Israel and Rafa are WARRIORS. They have practically destroyed each other. Their layoffs have been not only well-deserved, but health-mandated. Neither Rafa nor Israel go "cherry-picking" their opponents, nor could they give a RAT'S ASS about who's #1 p4p. They're fighters.... who fight whomever is placed in front of them. So should Mayweather get the same treatment?
See my answer a few posts above.
;)
thing is, he's already accomplished more than both Rafa and Izzy, you don't just get judged on your recent performances if not overall accomplishments and how sharp you've looked, Mayweather beating the shit out of (the then lineal Welterweight Champion) Mosley was a lot more impressive than Marquez losing yet again to Vazquez, and apart from Martinez who in the top 3 fights all comers? you know damned well Manny isn't, and unless he gets his way in negotiations the fight doesn't come off (gee who else does that sound like?), so fuck both Pacquiao and Mayweather in my book Sergio Martinez is P4P #1 and that's all that matters, and i've said it once and i'll say it again, he'll beat both easily
You can't rest on past laurels and expect to keep getting considered p4p. If we're gonna do that.... let's not stop at Mayweather. Let's bring back ANY fighter who's still semi-active and has had a great career. Personally, I'd rather dig a little deeper and find fighters who are FULLY active and leave it all out there for the fans. So what if Marquez's and Vazquez's careers don't quite measure up to Floyd's? For that matter... you can make the point that Sergio's doesn't either (measure up to Floyd's). But who the hell cares? I sure don't. As a fan, give me a Sergio, a Rafa, an Israel ANY day... over the prancing, clowning, inactive Floyd. He's already his OWN biggest fan... but his fan base is surely eroding as he lets time go by without giving the fans what they yearn for..... epic fights. And I do not put Pacquiao in the same category with Floyd. At least Pacquiao FIGHTS. No matter who it is. Pac haters will always find fault with Pac's choice of opponents. It's the nature of the game. But at least Pac FIGHTS.
IMO, Floyd may have been p4p a while back. But he's given up that throne a LONG time ago.
p4p originally was based on 2 things, skill (at the moment) and accomplishments, neither Marquez or Vazquez measured up to the level Floyd is still at today, you're ranting on about Pac haters but the same can be said about Floyd haters, you don't have to be a fan of the guy to know that still skill-wise he's head and shoulders above anyone under the top 3 guys on the p4p list, either way as the guy before my post said, all the p4p list has become is a flavor of the month club, whoever is most popular at the moment gets on, so take him off all you want, his first fight back against ANYONE and he'll be back at either #1 or #2, you can bet your house on that
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ElTerribleMorales
don't see why he should be removed, both Rafa Marquez and Israel Vazquez were ranked in the top 10 when they had the long layoff after their 3rd fight, Mayweather should have the same treatment
There is a HUGE difference between Marquez & Vazquez, versus Floyd. Israel and Rafa are WARRIORS. They have practically destroyed each other. Their layoffs have been not only well-deserved, but health-mandated. Neither Rafa nor Israel go "cherry-picking" their opponents, nor could they give a RAT'S ASS about who's #1 p4p. They're fighters.... who fight whomever is placed in front of them. So should Mayweather get the same treatment?
See my answer a few posts above.
;)
thing is, he's already accomplished more than both Rafa and Izzy, you don't just get judged on your recent performances if not overall accomplishments and how sharp you've looked, Mayweather beating the shit out of (the then lineal Welterweight Champion) Mosley was a lot more impressive than Marquez losing yet again to Vazquez, and apart from Martinez who in the top 3 fights all comers? you know damned well Manny isn't, and unless he gets his way in negotiations the fight doesn't come off (gee who else does that sound like?), so fuck both Pacquiao and Mayweather in my book Sergio Martinez is P4P #1 and that's all that matters, and i've said it once and i'll say it again, he'll beat both easily
You can't rest on past laurels and expect to keep getting considered p4p. If we're gonna do that.... let's not stop at Mayweather. Let's bring back ANY fighter who's still semi-active and has had a great career. Personally, I'd rather dig a little deeper and find fighters who are FULLY active and leave it all out there for the fans. So what if Marquez's and Vazquez's careers don't quite measure up to Floyd's? For that matter... you can make the point that Sergio's doesn't either (measure up to Floyd's). But who the hell cares? I sure don't. As a fan, give me a Sergio, a Rafa, an Israel ANY day... over the prancing, clowning, inactive Floyd. He's already his OWN biggest fan... but his fan base is surely eroding as he lets time go by without giving the fans what they yearn for..... epic fights. And I do not put Pacquiao in the same category with Floyd. At least Pacquiao FIGHTS. No matter who it is. Pac haters will always find fault with Pac's choice of opponents. It's the nature of the game. But at least Pac FIGHTS.
IMO, Floyd may have been p4p a while back. But he's given up that throne a LONG time ago.
p4p originally was based on 2 things, skill (at the moment) and accomplishments, neither Marquez or Vazquez measured up to the level Floyd is still at today, you're ranting on about Pac haters but the same can be said about Floyd haters, you don't have to be a fan of the guy to know that still skill-wise he's head and shoulders above anyone under the top 3 guys on the p4p list, either way as the guy before my post said, all the p4p list has become is a flavor of the month club, whoever is most popular at the moment gets on, so take him off all you want,
his first fight back against ANYONE and he'll be back at either #1 or #2, you can bet your house on that
That may well be true. I just don't feel like waiting another 5 years before finding out.
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