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The WBC has ordered jr. to have a immediate defense of his title against Sergio. They will not allow him to make any voluntary title defenses against Cotto or Rubio. I think Jr gives up his belt and walks away from this fight. It would be nice to see him step up and make it happen, it sure would help his reputation out. I just don't see Bob and Roach throwing him in the ring with Sergio right now though.
WBC: Chavez Jr. Must Fight Sergio Martinez, No Interims - Boxing News
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Originally Posted by MMASUX
Sounded exciting for a minute. The article itself has all kinds of loopholes for a way out of the fight.
That fight isnt happening
I can see the future.
Bob arum is going to add money to Floyd's pocket to fight Martinez. He's not going to let his 2 cash cows lose. Lol
I would love to watch Floyd fight Martinez. Ain't happening though.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Junior is not fighting Martinez for years. He will wait for him to get get old and try to beat him on the down slide.
Would love to see this happen.. But Arum will protect the cash cow and milk him as much as he can till someone exposes him.
Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??
Yes. Retired boxers, managers and trainers tend to support the system of protecting fighters more than anyone. Perhaps it's because they know how tough the wars are on your body or because all the idealism has been pounded out of them but in my experience, most old timers and veterans support that way of thinking. Also they have lots of connections so they can navigate that path. Fighters from nowhere, upstart managers and promoters from other businesses; those are the ones that try to break down the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??
The main loophole is if the two promoters can work something out that permits Chavez Jr. to keep the belt. I'm not sure what Arum can offer Dibella at this point. It appears Cotto won't fight someone as dangerous as Martinez ever again in his career and there isn't anyone else on the Top Rank roster that is a big enough name to satisfy Dibella. I can see Dibella and Arum agreeing to Andy Lee versus Chavez Jr. for February, which is a real test for Chavez Jr., mind you. His realest threat so far in his career. Then the winner would face Martinez in the early fall assuming Martinez successfully defends his silver title against Macklin on St. Patty's day in March.Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Martinez should cancel that fight and go straight for Jcc Jr NOW! Then make himself available for May 5. And good show can boost Martinez name to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThe main loophole is if the two promoters can work something out that permits Chavez Jr. to keep the belt. I'm not sure what Arum can offer Dibella at this point. It appears Cotto won't fight someone as dangerous as Martinez ever again in his career and there isn't anyone else on the Top Rank roster that is a big enough name to satisfy Dibella. I can see Dibella and Arum agreeing to Andy Lee versus Chavez Jr. for February, which is a real test for Chavez Jr., mind you. His realest threat so far in his career. Then the winner would face Martinez in the early fall assuming Martinez successfully defends his silver title against Macklin on St. Patty's day in March.Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??
Zbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCamacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??
Good for WBC to mandate this fight but they probably are going through the motions, but hope this fight does happen.
he hasn't stepped anywhere close to Rubio nor Lee has he? and IMO Zbik won the fight, despite a HUGE size disadvantage, best name on Chavez' record is Molina and rightfully both should be LossesQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratZbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCamacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by OnixQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??