WBC orders JCC jr vs Sergio Martinez

[ElTerribleMorales]

Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.

Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??

Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponents

[Rantcatrat]

Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.

Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??

Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponents

Zbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.

[Master]

Good for WBC to mandate this fight but they probably are going through the motions, but hope this fight does happen.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.

Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??

Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponents

Zbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.

he hasn't stepped anywhere close to Rubio nor Lee has he? and IMO Zbik won the fight, despite a HUGE size disadvantage, best name on Chavez' record is Molina and rightfully both should be Losses

[Spicoli]

From Manfredo to Martinez? Ha. Poor kid. I read somewhere that onetime Chavez rival Vanda is fighting btw...

bring out the hammer.

[Rantcatrat]

Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.

Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??

Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponents

Zbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.

he hasn't stepped anywhere close to Rubio nor Lee has he? and IMO Zbik won the fight, despite a HUGE size disadvantage, best name on Chavez' record is Molina and rightfully both should be Losses

I actually agree that Zbik won that fight. At a minimum, it was close. Either way, that was a decent step up against borderline top ten competition. Molina also is top ten competition. So, the point that Chavez hasn't faced ANYONE decent is WRONG. Has he been coddled? Sure, but not to the extent people make it out to be. If he faced Rubio or Lee now. It would be just about the right time.

[Manos de Piedra]

It's good to hear the WBC doing something but it ain't happening, maybe in another 5 years it might if Martinez is still around looking like Roy. I'd give alot of credit if chavez jr. and his team even take the fight.

IF it does happen Chavez jr gets knocked out brutally within 4.

[Rantcatrat]

It's good to hear the WBC doing something but it ain't happening, maybe in another 5 years it might if Martinez is still around looking like Roy. I'd give alot of credit if chavez jr. and his team even take the fight.

IF it does happen Chavez jr gets knocked out brutally within 4.

http://video.boxingscene.com/filess/...ts12172011.wmv

[ElTerribleMorales]

Papa Chavez will throw himself in front of a Mack truck before he allows his coddled 44-0 son to face someone like Sergio Martinez.

Let me ask you a question...If Camacho's kid had the same oppurtunity as JCC Jr. and when I say oppurtunity I mean earning oppurtunity, star oppurtunity, legacy oppurtunity, dont you see Camacho doing the same??

Camacho Jr already did face better opposition in Karmazin and Leija (this was before Leija's upset over Bojado), Chavez Jr still hasn't fought anyone above B Level and even that is a handful of opponents

Zbik was B level; Rubio and Lee are definitely B level.

he hasn't stepped anywhere close to Rubio nor Lee has he? and IMO Zbik won the fight, despite a HUGE size disadvantage, best name on Chavez' record is Molina and rightfully both should be Losses

I actually agree that Zbik won that fight. At a minimum, it was close. Either way, that was a decent step up against borderline top ten competition. Molina also is top ten competition. So, the point that Chavez hasn't faced ANYONE decent is WRONG. Has he been coddled? Sure, but not to the extent people make it out to be. If he faced Rubio or Lee now. It would be just about the right time.

IMO Molina beat him clearly on BOTH occasions, and that was Molina before he improved

[johnsebastianmiran]

I know that Jr.does not want any part of Martinez but my main concern is how did Martinez wind up without an alphabet soup title? I must have overslept that day and forgot to tune in to some sport's channel that day. Please inform me , I would appreciate it.

[MMASUX]

I know that Jr.does not want any part of Martinez but my main concern is how did Martinez wind up without an alphabet soup title? I must have overslept that day and forgot to tune in to some sport's channel that day. Please inform me , I would appreciate it.

He was stripped of the title for some reason by the WBC, and basically gave it to Jr. They had some BS reason for the title stripping, but what do you expect from the WBC.

[shza]

I know that Jr.does not want any part of Martinez but my main concern is how did Martinez wind up without an alphabet soup title? I must have overslept that day and forgot to tune in to some sport's channel that day. Please inform me , I would appreciate it.

I believe it's because he fought Williams in the rematch (the fight everyone wanted to see) instead of facing some no-name mandatory challenger (a fight no one wanted to see). So he was stripped. Business as usual.

[Rantcatrat]

I know that Jr.does not want any part of Martinez but my main concern is how did Martinez wind up without an alphabet soup title? I must have overslept that day and forgot to tune in to some sport's channel that day. Please inform me , I would appreciate it.

I believe it's because he fought Williams in the rematch (the fight everyone wanted to see) instead of facing some no-name mandatory challenger (a fight no one wanted to see). So he was stripped. Business as usual.

It's because Zbik was Martinez's mandatory and HBO wouldn't approve Zbik as an opponent for Martinez (although they would approve him as an opponent for Chavez Jr.) and rather than fight Zbik, fulfill the mandatory, but not be on tv, Martinez was stripped. He had a choice of whether to deal with his mandatory or fight on HBO and he chose the latter.

[shza]

I know that Jr.does not want any part of Martinez but my main concern is how did Martinez wind up without an alphabet soup title? I must have overslept that day and forgot to tune in to some sport's channel that day. Please inform me , I would appreciate it.

I believe it's because he fought Williams in the rematch (the fight everyone wanted to see) instead of facing some no-name mandatory challenger (a fight no one wanted to see). So he was stripped. Business as usual.

It's because Zbik was Martinez's mandatory and HBO wouldn't approve Zbik as an opponent for Martinez (although they would approve him as an opponent for Chavez Jr.) and rather than fight Zbik, fulfill the mandatory, but not be on tv, Martinez was stripped. He had a choice of whether to deal with his mandatory or fight on HBO and he chose the latter.

Ah, that's right. Thanks. And that's when he ended up fighting Dzinziruk, right? (I know I butchered that last name - too lazy to look it up.)