If he hadnt suffered the brain bleed and continued fighting, where do u think hed be right now..
Lets say he fought wlad around 05-06, how does he perform... and what about against brewster around the same time..
Thoughts on mesi?
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If he hadnt suffered the brain bleed and continued fighting, where do u think hed be right now..
Lets say he fought wlad around 05-06, how does he perform... and what about against brewster around the same time..
Thoughts on mesi?
I doubt it was a case of bad luck that he got the brain bleed or whatever. He was bound to get hit like he did the way he fought, and was probably lucky that he wasn't hurt worse if he'd made it further. Lewis was still around, both Klitschkos coming up, he'd hit his peak imo. Reminds me a little bit of Tommy Morrison with less power to be honest, decent textbook skills and a big left hook but vulnerable and pretty one paced. He's done a good job on commentary the few fights I've seen him do ringside, pretty well spoken for a fighter, have wondered why he didn't get behind the mic more.
Most Babies have business being in the ring.
Mesi was a nice dude. But he didn't just take damage like it was a fluke. He was being beat to the punch, hurt and slugging with guys lower in weight and willfully engaged. What you saw was what you got, and Wlad would have lit him up like a Christmas tree in Times square. Save all that 'rabbit punch landed' stuff.
i remember when mesi was coming up in the ranks and thinking how bad he was. then i look back at his opposition and how he fared and realized that he is an easy top 5 HW today.
Baby Joe was a solid contender I think his best shot for a title during his time would have been the WBA title held by Ruiz then Chagaev then Valuev.
Joe's career would have ended shortly after the Jirov fight regardless of the health issues just due to his style. He was a fun fighter to watch, he had a very solid left hook, a good quick right hand but no real jab to speak of and he was always a little softish in physique. He was a slugger who was best going forward, he was a throwback kind of guy, limited on defense and attack but he could cope.
Wlad pre-Sanders & Brewster would batter poor Joe into submission Wlad post-Sanders & Brewster would have had to survive the early rounds and he'd get a late stoppage as Joe always slowed during fights.
Joe vs Brewster would have been BRUTAL! I'm thinking a Lyle-Foreman kind of brawl. I'd figure Brewster would nick it because of his chin.
Other fights I always wanted Mesi to have
John Ruiz
Andrew Golota
Dominick Guinn
Michael Moorer
Kirk Johnson
James Toney
Fres Oquendo
Hasim Rahman
Oleg Maskaev
Jameel McCline
Calvin Brock
Ray Austin
I think Baby Joe had a very solid career but I'm glad he left boxing in a healthier manner than he almost did.
:rolleyes: no, not top 5 don't be ridiculous...top 15 perhapsQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I agree, the damage was going to happen sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Mesi vs Audley Harrison would have been good at a certain time
Joe didn't pay much attention to defense and he always tired late
Dude, mesi would have owned that bum harrison. Its a slap to mesi's face to even put him in the same sentence with bumley as if it would be some kinda competitive fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
It would be like the davryl williamson fight... hell williamson would have fucked up bumley too.
either you are highly underrating mesi or highly overrating the HWs today. as i stated before, i thought mesi was a bum and still kind of do, but even during his short reign as a HW he beat a few alright opponents. opponents that were better than most HWs right now. saying he would only be top 15 today is selling him way short. he wrecked williamson who actually wasnt that bad. he should have beaten wlad but wlad was given a gift decision. he beat jirov and barret who were both alright. again, im not saying that mesi was good but those 3 guys are probably just as good if not better than most people in the top 10 right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:rolleyes: no, not top 5 don't be ridiculous...top 15 perhapsQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I liked Joe, one because he was Italian and two because he always was in good fights.
Sei Italiano?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
Look at Joe's style and his opponents. The more technical boxers would school him. I like Joe but he was limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpunchereither you are highly underrating mesi or highly overrating the HWs today. as i stated before, i thought mesi was a bum and still kind of do, but even during his short reign as a HW he beat a few alright opponents. opponents that were better than most HWs right now. saying he would only be top 15 today is selling him way short. he wrecked williamson who actually wasnt that bad. he should have beaten wlad but wlad was given a gift decision. he beat jirov and barret who were both alright. again, im not saying that mesi was good but those 3 guys are probably just as good if not better than most people in the top 10 right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:rolleyes: no, not top 5 don't be ridiculous...top 15 perhapsQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Who is the top 5? Wlad, Vitali...Joe ain't better than them. Haye, Joe couldn't handle the speed. Povetkin, more fair but Alex is too tough and too technical. Jennings, meh decent fight. Stiverne, Joe could win IF he caught him flush. Arreola, doubt Joe could beat him. Adamek...tough fight. Wilder, maybe. Pulev, doubtful. Chagaev, no way.
Yes. Half. My moms sideQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaSei Italiano?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297