both fury and chiz have easy fights this month, obviously no risk for their big money rematch
think that is fair enough or do you think they shuld at least be a bit tested, try and put on a show?
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both fury and chiz have easy fights this month, obviously no risk for their big money rematch
think that is fair enough or do you think they shuld at least be a bit tested, try and put on a show?
Chisora has been active in competitive fights so a stay busy fight is fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Fury hasn't been active due to Hayes shenanigans so it is fair enough he has a tune up fight.
The only difference is Chisora doesn't need the easy fight, but Fury does to stay sharp.
Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have;)
As for the fights being easy...
Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.
As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight;)
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's as good as people suggest.
But I'm always for fighters getting a fair shake.
Some would say that Haye let him get off the hook. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Haye was happy enought to go through the Wlad fight with a broken toe;DQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedSome would say that Haye let him get off the hook. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
And is now talking title shots again, rather than a guaranteed £5 million for an "easy" fight with Fury;)
A real title is the big jackpot, but I don't want to argue about them, they're both Brits, act looney as hell at times and I'm not trying to defend either one .Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHaye was happy enought to go through the Wlad fight with a broken toe;DQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedSome would say that Haye let him get off the hook. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
And is now talking title shots again, rather than a guaranteed £5 million for an "easy" fight with Fury;)
It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeIt seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.
What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.
You will see;)
What is the bet Johnson gets robbed against Chisora?
Im putting money on Johnson by stoppage because its good odds but im waiting until the day or day before for any other pull outs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Firstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeIt seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.
What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.
You will see;)
What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.
Your kidding yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeFirstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeIt seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.
What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.
You will see;)
What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.
Someone who gets wobbled by 2 consecutive european journeymen is "improved"?
If you look at Chisora he doesnt even look any more "ripped" he still looks soft. I think hes dropped as much muscle as fat because right now he still looks as though he drop alot of weight. It has hurt his resiliance and if ajohnson catches him (which he will) and hurts him, he has enough class to keep Chisora hurt.
Nobody is talking about Joey Abell. He has no chance against Fury, or what?
As has been said over and over, Furys chin isn't the greatest and anyone he starts playing the fool against is likely to catch him. Abell is a puncher and is the only man to drop Pulev.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
There is enough danger to keep Tyson on his toes for sure.;)