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    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have
    Haha.

    I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's as good as people suggest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    Some would say that Haye let him get off the hook. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    Some would say that Haye let him get off the hook. Lol
    Haye was happy enought to go through the Wlad fight with a broken toe

    And is now talking title shots again, rather than a guaranteed £5 million for an "easy" fight with Fury

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    Some would say that Haye let him get off the hook. Lol
    Haye was happy enought to go through the Wlad fight with a broken toe

    And is now talking title shots again, rather than a guaranteed £5 million for an "easy" fight with Fury
    A real title is the big jackpot, but I don't want to argue about them, they're both Brits, act looney as hell at times and I'm not trying to defend either one .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.
    I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.

    Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.

    What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.

    You will see

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    What is the bet Johnson gets robbed against Chisora?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What is the bet Johnson gets robbed against Chisora?
    Im putting money on Johnson by stoppage because its good odds but im waiting until the day or day before for any other pull outs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.
    I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.

    Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.

    What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.

    You will see
    Firstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.

    What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.
    I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.

    Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.

    What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.

    You will see
    Firstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.

    What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.
    Your kidding yourself.

    Someone who gets wobbled by 2 consecutive european journeymen is "improved"?

    If you look at Chisora he doesnt even look any more "ripped" he still looks soft. I think hes dropped as much muscle as fat because right now he still looks as though he drop alot of weight. It has hurt his resiliance and if ajohnson catches him (which he will) and hurts him, he has enough class to keep Chisora hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.
    I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.

    Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.

    What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.

    You will see
    Firstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.

    What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.
    Your kidding yourself.

    Someone who gets wobbled by 2 consecutive european journeymen is "improved"?

    If you look at Chisora he doesnt even look any more "ripped" he still looks soft. I think hes dropped as much muscle as fat because right now he still looks as though he drop alot of weight. It has hurt his resiliance and if ajohnson catches him (which he will) and hurts him, he has enough class to keep Chisora hurt.
    Fury is wobbled in pretty much every fight yet you claim he has improved? HYPOCRITE! Can you not admit that when Chisora trains and takes fights seriously (like he did v Vitali, Helenius, Haye) he is better then when he doesnt (live v Fury)?

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    Vendettos, you seem to be taking a more common sense attitude to Fury. You will grow to respect then like him as others have

    As for the fights being easy...

    Chisora is fighting Johnson. Kevin Johnson is impossible to look good against. He lost a debatable 10 rounder on 20th of December then went immediately in to camp with Szpilka helping him get ready for Jennings for a few weeks. He had maybe 1 or 2 weeks at the most out of training before getting the offer to fight Chisora. Also, Johnson would probably have been tapped up about a week before they announced the fight so has probably had longer to get ready for the Chisora fight than we think and because of Johnsons style, both Chisora and Don Charls, his trainer have said they are worried the crowd will boo. So Chisora will force the issue. Johnson is a counter puncher who will love Chisora taking the fight to him and I have a feeling after Chisora getting hurt by European level journeymen in his couple of fights that Johnson will have a field day and stop him.

    As for Fury. Yes he is not an established world class fighter yet. He yet to get his shot at a title. He was still progressing until Haye fucked him around so it has put him back a step and his opponent after all is the only person to drop Pulev in Pulevs most recent fight
    It seems you rate Johnson because Fury beat him. He is nothing special and has never beaten anyone of note. His best win is probably against Leapai whos best win himself at the time was probably Travis Walker.
    I dont think Johnson is good just because Fury beat him at all.

    Its his style. I think hes going to be fitter than anyone wants to give him credit for because hes fought a 10 rounder 5 weeks ago, went straight in to camp sparring Szpilka and Oquendo and then got the call for this. His style is all wrong for Chisora and Chisoras is everything Johnson could hope for. A short comeforward brawler.

    What exactly has Chisora improved about his boxing, ask yourself that? He's got lighter and thats it! The heavier Chisora that bulled a 20 stone Fury and pushed Vitali harder than anyone else would not have been hurt by his last two opponents.

    You will see
    Firstlky, I love the way you try to boost Furys profile by comparing a 260+ pound chisora that "bulled" Fury to a 240 pound Chisora that went the distance with Vitali and then try to clain the 235 pound Fury is weaker and Chinnier then the 2 of them because what Haye managed to stop him? You are so unbelievably biased it makes u look stupid. You can speak a lot of sense but ur emotions take over far to easily. What has Chisora improved about his boxing? His stamina, his strenght and his speed. All of this has improved with him training harder and dropping fat and putting on muscle, plain and simple.

    What makes you think this style will suit Johnson? Johnson hasnt fought anyone who will get to the inside and throw punches. All this shite you are talking now, you better give Chisora credit if he wins.
    Your kidding yourself.

    Someone who gets wobbled by 2 consecutive european journeymen is "improved"?

    If you look at Chisora he doesnt even look any more "ripped" he still looks soft. I think hes dropped as much muscle as fat because right now he still looks as though he drop alot of weight. It has hurt his resiliance and if ajohnson catches him (which he will) and hurts him, he has enough class to keep Chisora hurt.
    Fury is wobbled in pretty much every fight yet you claim he has improved? HYPOCRITE! Can you not admit that when Chisora trains and takes fights seriously (like he did v Vitali, Helenius, Haye) he is better then when he doesnt (live v Fury)?
    Ok, Chisoras lighter weight fighting he got hurt by european journeymen. Fat, he did better against Fury than Johnson and Cunningham.

    You will see. Chisora will look crap against someone Fury beat easy. Its his style. He will make it easy for Johnson.

    Fury got dropped by a world class fighter in his last fight and sparked him. People may say he wasn't a heavyweight but they contradict themselves because when iv pointed out that if most of todays decent heavies were to get their body fat down to Cunninghams they would probably be lighter than 210lb., they say that Cunningham just put on water. Well he must have been weakening himself to fuck losing 10lb of water to get down to cruiser!

    Cunningham is insanely ripped to shreds! Imagine Chisora in that shape. He wouldn't be any heavier than Cunningham.

    Anyway, my point is Chisora hasn't looked very good against poor opponents recently. Easy to hit and hurt and is doing nothing better now he's lost weight. He looks weaker if anything.

    How you can judge his stamina when he fought the distance with Fury but only done a handful of rounds since he's lost weight

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